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#71
our lone nut advocate friends first and foremost deny that a mauser rifle was found . this post is not about whether one was found , its about one reason given by LNs that a mauser was not found . one witness (roger craig) said he saw 7.65 mauser stamped on the rifle , two others weitzman and boone gave signed affidavits stating the rifle was a mauser . weitzman was still saying it was a mauser as late as november 24 , they say ITS IMPOSSIBLE , a mauser cant have been found because NO MAUSER RIFLE has 7.65 mauser stamped on it .



very clearly you can see 7.65 mauser on the rifle .
#72
“We don’t have any proof that Oswald fired the rifle, and never did. Nobody’s yet been able to put him in that building with a gun in his hand.”~Jesse Curry

some times people type a quote from memory , some times its pretty accurate , some times its near accurate but not quite there , some times its inaccurate . now lone nut advocates have commented saying that dallas police chief curry did not give the above quote . they say ITS NOT IN HIS BOOK , they say WE CANT FIND ANY REFERENCE TO ITS SOURCE . so that then allows them to dismiss this completely .

"No one has ever been able to put him in the texas school book depository with a rifle in his hand.”~Jesse Curry

this is the exact quote , how do i know ? well its in the dallas morning news SEE THE PICTURE BELOW



so yes the quote can be slightly misquoted at times , but in essence it is still accurate . but we now know that curry did make the quote and that he gave it to tom johnson of the dallas morning news .
#73
i have read posts elsewhere that are often repeated that there was no bullet hole in he windscreen , further info added in the posts usually state that only one or two UNRELIABLE witnesses said they saw a hole . the norm usually (if one wants to push the no hole scenario) is that they (the poster ) states that these were just in effect regular joe soaps , in other words the mentality is who are they that we should believe them ? .

well most of the witnesses in this case , be that to jfks killing or officer tippits killing were regular people who just came out on what was a wet and windy morning to see if they could catch sight of jfk .

we have the witnesses that we have . all we can do is look at what they said or did , what statements they gave etc and judge their reliability or credibility based on that , if there is no earthly reason to dispute them then what they said must stand .if there are valid reasons to dispute witnesses (and in some cases there are ) then we must highlight these reasons .

only in this case will you see a whole raft of witnesses being dismissed out of hand as "simply mistaken" a term often used by lone nut advocates .when i look at any witness in order to determine if there is any reason to distrust them i ask my self several questions based a lot on the usual LN criticisms of witnesses .

can we prove they were where they said they were ?
did they try to profit from the crimes ?
did they actively seek fame ?
did they write articles or books ?
did they provably lie at any time ?

i know witnesses that never gave interviews and avoided the lime light , never wrote articles or books , never profited one cent , and never has any proof of any dishonesty on their part been shown . yet these witnesses end up being dismissed by lone nut advocates one way or another , if there is no reason to dismiss them LNs will dig one up . as an example parkland doctors , nurses , people that saw jfks wounds from no more than a few inches away . if they say what LN like to hear THEY ARE DEEMED CREDIBLE , the fact that all their original statements contradict LNs is ignored . if a witness disputes the official version of events but they cant be proven to have lied or be dishonest well the LN mantra has now become THEY WANTED TO INSERT THEM SELVES INTO HISTORY , or the so called conspiracy theorists somehow got to them and converted them from intelligent people into fools lol .


there is an old expression THEY ALL CANT BE WRONG . how many witnesses with no reason to lie and with no proof showing them to have ever been dishonest all saying the same thing do we need before we accept that THEY ALL CANT BE WRONG ? .

we were never told about many of the bethesda witnesses .bethesda is where the autopsy of jfk was performed . the bethesda witnesses were orderd to sign secrecy agreements stopping them from talking about what they saw UNDER THREAT OF COURT MARTIAL . the warren commission never spoke to them with the exception really of the pathologists whom they couldnt really ignore . but later in the 70s the hsca did speak to bethesda witnesses . now firstly ill just quickly lay the tracks . the majority of parkland staff said jfk had a gaping right rear head wound , thats nurses , doctors , neuro surgeons etc . officially they were all proclaimed wrong "SIMPLY MISTAKEN" .

i mean a neuro surgeon cant possibly be expected to be able to determine on his own whether he his looking at a mans forehead , temple or the rear of the mans head lol . from 63 untill 78 all of these witnesses were told they were mistaken , so in those 15 years some decided YES MAYBE I WAS WRONG . this because they were told that no one agreed with or corroborated them . well the hsca took statements from bethesda witnesses that did agree with them and which corroborated them . in 63 the military made sure no one heard what these witnesses had to say , in 64 the warren commission did so by ignoring them , in 78 the hsca made sure no one heard what these witnesses had to say by first SEALING AWAY their testimonies and then lying blatantly in their report stating falsely that ALL the bethesda witnesses contradicted the parkland staff . in fact they told the hsca that jfk had a gaping right rear head wound , they includes two fbi agents .

now im sorry im going a tad around the houses here . im simply trying to highlight how badly witnesses are treated and or ignored or dismissed . im highlighting that the us government and agencies and commissions of the government deceived and lied . the warren commission had a BACK wound that didnt help them (it was to low to fit the trajectory) so they lied and said it was several inches higher up on the right of the neck . the clark panel and hsca had an entry wound low on the back of the head at the hairline just above where the hair on the lowest part of the back of the head meets the neck , as above that trajectory was a problem so they lied and said the wound was some 5 inches higher up on the crown of the head .

we must judge witnesses fairly and honestly , if they be proven to have been dishonest that rightly affects their credibility . likewise we must look at how the various agencies and commissions and the government behaved , deceived and lied and they need to be judged accordingly . that said we wont judge every single employee of the above by the low standards of the agencies they worked for . for example there are fbi agents such as the two mentioned above that told the truth , another agent called odum to name but 3 that were honest and truthful and who refused to be otherwise .

so the limo windscreen . im not going to tell you what to believe , i will let you decide for your selves .

firstly it wasnt just one or two witnesses that said they saw a hole in the windscreen , it was in and around 6 that we know of that are listed and they were not all regular joes , plenty others stood by the limo at parkland that could see if it had a hole or not who we dont know about .

RICHARD DUDMAN : st louis post reporter

"some of us noticed the HOLE in the front window . we were pushed away by secret service agents when we wanted to examine the hole "

CHARLES TAYLOR : fbi report

"small HOLE just left of center"


STEVE (STAVIS) ELLIS : motorcycle cop

"you could have put a pencil through the HOLE "


HAROLD R FREEMAN : police

"i could have touched it ......it was a HOLE .....it was a bullet HOLE , you could tell what it was"


NICK PRENCIPE : police

said he saw a bullet hole

Nick Prencipe, unequivocally described the hole they witnessed as a "bullet hole."


EVALIA GLANGES : 2nd year medical student 1963

"there was a HOLE .........through and through bullet HOLE "



motorcycle officer bj martin who was at jfks left rear with bobby hargis said he saw no hole in the windscreen , all be it he said it years later late 60s and not in testimony in 64 . that said if the commission wanted to ignore hole in the wind screen witnesses i know they probably wouldnt have even mentioned the windscreen to martin , if they didnt ask well then the witness couldnt give an uncomfortable answer , if a witness did try and mention something they didnt want on the record they went off the record or cut the witness off .

so far we have 6 witnesses from police , to reporters , to trainee doctor , fbi etc , ive never seen any reason for any of them to be declared in any way dishonest . we have one cop (bj martin) that later said he saw no hole .


i havent mention the man at the ford plant who said the limo windscreen had a hole in it , and that he made a template from the old screen and made a new one from it .off hand i have no reason to distrust an elderly man who really was dead before his name became widely known . what did he gain by lying ? , if he wanted fame and fortune why not come out years earlier ? say at the shaw trial or when major books had come out ? .

there are photos of the limo in the secret service garage . logs state that the limo was in the garage when the man above said he was making a windscreen . is this true then ? did the old man lie ? , maybe he did but maybe he didnt . as i have said the secret service , fbi , dallas police , various commissions record of honesty and truthfulness is not great . for me its very hard to trust anything they came out with .yes i could list some witnesses that lack credibility because they changed their story or lied , one is marina oswald , so some witnesses can be unreliable , but on the whole in the case of most of the witnesses they seem to have given an honest version of events as they saw it and as they believed it to be true . one can be honest and still be wrong of course . but what is undeniable and what i often tell LNs when they talk about liars is that there are LN witnesses such as marina oswald and various commissions that have provably lied but LNs dont seem to see any problem with them .




above is a photo showing a cracked wind screen , as i said i invite people to research the people i mentioned ,and indeed all that i posted and reach their own conclusions .
#74
HISTORY / MYSTERY / 30 Weird Facts Most People Don...
Last post by THE FUGITIVE - March 29, 2018, 03:45:08 PM
1. TwirledOriole

If you eat a polar bear liver, you will die. Humans can’t handle that much vitamin A.
2. trevormatic

The critically endangered Kakapo bird has a strong, pleasant, musty odour which allows predators to easily locate it. Hence, it is critically endangered. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakapo
3. Sir_Ostrich

One I learned on here. The male giraffe will continuously headbutt the female in the bladder until she urinates. The male then tastes the pee and that helps it determine whether the female is ovulating. If she is, it’s business time.
4. Stoms2

Abalones (a snail) have 5 assholes.
5. shakypiss

Banana Slug penises. First off, a banana slug can be 6-8 inches. The slug’s erect penis be just as long. Also, their penises emerge from their heads. After sex, banana slugs eat each other’s penises. They’re also the mascot of UC Santa Cruz.
6. ObturateYourForamen

Dead people can get goosebumps.
7. HeyMyNamesMatt

A full head of human hair is strong enough to support 12 tons.
8. 20PoundPenis

The blood from a human erection has enough blood to keep 3 gerbals alive.
9. way_fairer

The word “facetiously” contains all 5 vowels and “y” in alphabetical order.
10. suckit2me

The national anthem of Greece has 158 verses…
11. bearsarefatcunts

Dragonflies have shovel shaped penises so they can scoop out their rival’s sperm.
12. Bluecheezeplatter

Honey does not spoil. You could feasibly eat 3000 year old honey.
13. jiggahuh

There was a ten foot tall ape called Gigantopithecus that is now thought to be extinct. The fossil record also indicates that they most likely buried their dead, which indicates a cognitive level that only one other ape possesses.
14. abbazabbbbbbba

There are more possible iterations of a game of chess than there are atoms in the known universe. It’s called The Shannon Number, here’s a wikipedia article about it
15. TheSicilianDude

If you were to remove all of the empty space from the atoms that make up every human on earth, the entire world population could fit into an apple
16. stengebt

Duck vaginas have developed “dead ends” over time to protect them from being raped by other ducks.
17. GoGoGadgetReddit

The song Coconut (“She put the lime in the coconut, she drank ’em both up…”) has only one chord in the entire song. It is the only song without any chord changes to reach the Billboard Hot 100 chart. It reached #8 in 1972.
18. biohazard13

The average blue whale produces over 400 gallons of sperm when it ejaculates, but only 10% of that actually makes it into his mate. Happy Swimming!!! :-)
19. jicty

A mantis shrimp can swing its claw so fast it boils the water around it and creates a flash of light.
20. Forkgoesontheleft

That completely blind people don’t see blackness, they see nothing.
21. DeanMarais

Llamas are born with an extra pair of fighting teeth that they use to bite off other llamas’ testicles making them the only fertile male in the group.
22. MegaMaverick

Only Asian people have black hair. Every other supposedly ‘black’ hair colour is actually really dark brown.
23. whalemango

The Indonesian Mimic Octopus can not only change colours, but will mimic the shapes of other animals, like the flounder, poisonous lion fish, and sea snakes.
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24. Naaahhh

One species of jellyfish, Turritopsis nutricula, are immortal.
25. BruceBrewsky

A blue whale’s penis is 11 feet long.
26. Jojoseb

Cats sleep for 70% of their lives.
27. Maggieforpresident

A pig’s orgasm lasts 30 minutes and a male lion mates up to 50 times a day.
28. jackielynne94

male elephants sometimes use their penis as a 5th limb.
29. elchip

The brain named itself.
30. Me, Bobby Viner, as adapted for accuracy from ShanghaiBebop

Mozart wrote a canon entitled “Leck mich im Arsch,” which translates as “Lick me in the arse.” TC mark
#75
CONSPIRACY ZONE / Re: WHO WAS JACK THE RIPPER ?
Last post by fobrien1 - March 29, 2018, 01:42:13 AM
yes mate he certainly had medical knowledge . the last of the 5 official murders was a grisly one that well the poor girl mary kelly was hacked to bits really . no real medical knowledge was needed there . but some of the other murders did have and require medical knowledge . as an example a kidney was removed from one victim . they tried to down play this at the time and say such a procedure required no special knowledge , doctors have said otherwise .

its sadly common that crazy guys kill , such as the yorkshire ripper . for me having read about jack and how the authorities at the time behaved tellls me that there is more to that case . if it is along the lines of what i said above in my last post , well we likely wont know any more than we do because evidence will be destroyed or covered up .

its interesting that many letters were received at the time from people claiming to be jack . they were pretty much all dismissed as cranks . however one letter , the from hell letter mentioned something interesting that only the real killer would have known . he not only mentioned in the letter that he removed a kidney but he sent part of it with the letter . the kidney being removed info was known only to police .
#76
RANT ROOM / 8 Conspiracy Theories and What...
Last post by THE FUGITIVE - March 28, 2018, 04:31:34 PM
Who doesn’t want a telepathic ray gun? The U.S. Army sure does. It’s already researched a device that could beam words into your skull, according to the 1998 report "Bioeffects of Selected Nonlethal Weapons." The report says that, with the help of special microwaves, “this technology could be developed to the point where words could be transmitted to be heard like the spoken word, except that it could only be heard within a person’s head.” The device could “communicate with hostages” and could “facilitate a private message transmission.”

In 2002, the Air Force Research laboratory patented a similar microwave device. Rep. Dennis Kucinich seemed concerned, because one year earlier, he proposed the Space Preservation Act, which called for a ban of all “Psychotronic weapons.” It didn’t pass.

The mind games don’t stop there. The CIA’s massive mind control experiment, Project MKUltra, remains the pet project of paranoid people everywhere. Beginning in the early 1950s, the CIA started asking strange questions in memos, like:

“Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self-preservation?”

In April 1953, the CIA decided to find out. The Agency wanted to develop drugs that could manipulate Soviet spies and foreign leaders"essentially, a truth serum. The CIA brimmed with other ideas, too, but Director Allen Dulles complained that there weren’t enough “human guinea pigs to try these extraordinary techniques.”

That lack of test subjects drove the CIA to wander off the ethical deep-end, leading the Agency to experiment on unwitting Americans.

About 80 institutions"44 of them colleges"housed MKUltra labs. There, the CIA toyed with drugs like LSD and heroin, testing if the substances “could potentially aid in discrediting individuals, eliciting information, and implanting suggestions and other forms of mental control.” The CIA tested LSD and barbiturates on mental patients, prisoners, and addicts. It also injected LSD in over 7000 military personnel without their knowledge. Many suffered psychotic episodes.

The CIA tried its hand at erasing people’s memories, too. Project ARTICHOKE tested how well hypnosis and morphine could induce amnesia. And when the CIA wasn’t trying to develop a memory-killing equivalent of the neurolyzer from Men in Black, it studied Chinese brainwashing techniques: Project QKHILLTOP examined ancient mind-scrambling methods to make interrogations easier.

In the wake of the Watergate scandal, the CIA destroyed hundreds of thousands of MKUltra documents. Only 20,000 escaped the shredder, and the CIA shifted its efforts from mind control to clairvoyance. In the mid 1970s, it launched the Stargate Project, which studied the shadowy phenomenon of “remote viewing.” (That is, the CIA investigated if it were possible to see through walls"with your mind.) The project closed in 1995. A final memo concluded:

“Even though a statistically significant effect has been observed in the laboratory, it remains unclear whether the existence of a paranormal phenomenon, remote viewing, has been demonstrated.”

Conspiracy #2: The government is poisoning me.
The Truth: It poisoned alcohol supplies to curb drinking during prohibition.


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As the '20s roared, alcoholism soared. Booze was banned, but speakeasies were everywhere. Few people followed the law, so the Treasury Department started enforcing it differently"by poisoning the watering hole. 

Most liquor in the 1920s was made from industrial alcohol, used in paints, solvents, and fuel. Bootleggers stole about 60 million gallons a year, redistilling the swill to make it drinkable. To drive rumrunners away, the Treasury Department started poisoning industrial hooch with methyl alcohol. But bootleggers kept stealing it, and people started getting sick.

When dealers noticed something wrong, they hired chemists to renature the alcohol, making it drinkable again. Dismayed, the government threw a counterpunch and added more poison"kerosene, gasoline, chloroform, and higher concentrations of methyl alcohol. Again, it didn’t deter drinking; the booze business carried on as usual.

By 1928, most of the liquor circulating in New York City was toxic. Despite increased illness and death, the Treasury didn’t stop tainting industrial supplies until the 18th amendment was repealed in 1933.

Conspiracy #3: The government is trying to ruin my reputation.
The Truth: The FBI’s COINTELPRO did it for 15 years.


The FBI has never been a fan of critics. During the second Red Scare, the Bureau fought dissenters, launching a covert program called COINTELPRO. Its mission? To “expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize” rebellious people and groups.

Under COINTELPRO, the FBI oversaw 2000 subversive smear operations. Agents bugged phones, forged documents, and planted false reports to create a negative public image of dissenters. COINTELPRO targeted hate groups like the KKK, but it also kept close watch on the “New Left,” like civil rights marchers and women’s rights activists. It tracked Muhammad Ali, Malcolm X, John Lennon, and Ernest Hemingway.

Few, however, were watched as closely as Martin Luther King Jr. After MLK gave his famous “I Have a Dream” speech, this memo floated through FBI offices:

“In the light of King’s powerful demagogic speech yesterday he stands heads and shoulders over all other Negro leaders put together when it comes to influencing great masses of Negros. We must mark him now, if we have not done so before, as the most dangerous Negro of the future in this nation from the standpoint of communism, the Negro, and national security.”

King became an unofficial Enemy of State. Agents tracked his every move, performing a “complete analysis of the avenues of approach aimed at neutralizing King as an effective Negro leader." When a wiretap revealed King’s extramarital affair, the FBI sent him an anonymous letter, predicting that blackmail was in his future. “You are a colossal fraud and an evil, vicious one at that,” the letter said. A month later, MLK accepted the Nobel Peace Prize.

COINTELPRO shut down in 1971, although the FBI continued to monitor certain groups. In the 1990s, it tracked PETA and put members of Greenpeace on its terror watch list.

Conspiracy #4: The government is germ-bombing its own people.
The Truth: It was a common practice during the Cold War.


NASA

From 1940 to 1970, America was a giant germ laboratory. The U.S. Army wanted to assess how vulnerable America was to a biological attack, so it spread clouds of microbes and chemicals over populated areas everywhere.

In 1949, the Army Special Operations released bacteria into the Pentagon’s air conditioning system to observe how the microbes spread (the bacteria were reportedly harmless). In 1950, a U.S. Navy ship sprayed Serratia Marcescens"a common bacteria capable of minor infection"from San Francisco Bay. The bacteria floated over 30 miles, spread through the city, and may have caused one death.

A year later, during Operation DEW, the U.S. Army released 250 pounds of cadmium sulfide off the Carolina coast, which spread over 60,000 square miles. The military didn’t know that cadmium sulfide was carcinogenic, nor did it know that it could cause kidney, lung, and liver damage. In the 1960s, during Project 112 and Project SHAD, military personnel were exposed to nerve agents like VX and sarin and bacteria like E. coli without their knowledge. At least 134 similar experiments were performed.

President Nixon ended offensive tests of the US biological weapons program in 1969.

Conspiracy #5: The government is spreading disease with insects of war.
The Truth: You may have been attacked by a six-legged soldier, but you’re fine.


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In 1955, the military dropped 330,000 yellow fever mosquitoes from an aircraft over Georgia. The campaign was cleverly called Operation Big Buzz, and the mosquitoes buzzed their way to residential areas. In 1956, Operation Drop Kick dropped 600,000 more mosquitoes over an Air Force base in Florida.

In both cases, the mosquitoes did not carry any disease. They were test weapons, part of the military’s entomological warfare team, which studied the bugs' ability to disperse and attack. Results found that the six-legged soldiers successfully feasted on humans and guinea pigs placed near the drop area.

In 1954, Operation Big Itch dropped 300,000 rat fleas in the Western Utah Desert. The military wanted to test if fleas could effectively carry and transmit disease. During one test, a bug-bomb failed to drop, cracking open inside the plane. The fleas swarmed the cabin, biting everybody aboard.

At the time, the military planned to build an insect farm, a facility that could produce 100 million infected mosquitoes per month. Multiple Soviet cities were marked with buggy bullseyes.

Conspiracy #6: The government has exposed me to harmful radiation.
The Truth: If you’re over 50, it’s possible.




“It is desired that no documents be released which refers to experiments with humans and might have adverse effect on public opinion or result in legal suits. Documents covering such work field should be classified ‘secret.’” "Atomic Energy Commission memo, 1947

In the late 1980s, the U.S. House Committee on Energy and Commerce released a damning report called “American Nuclear Guinea Pigs: Three Decades of Radiation Experiments on U.S. Citizens.” The report spotlighted Operation Green Run, a military test at a Washington plutonium facility. There, in 1949, managers purposefully released a massive cloud of radioactive iodine-131 to test how far it could travel downwind. Iodine-131 and xenon-133 reportedly traveled as far as the California-Oregon border, infecting 500,000 acres. It’s believed that 8000 curies of radioactive iodine floated out of the factory. To put that into perspective, in 1979, Three Mile Island emitted around 25 curies of radioactive iodine.

The report showed that the military planned 12 similar radiation releases at other facilities.

The government sponsored smaller tests, too. In the late 1950s, mentally disabled children at Sonoma State Hospital were fed irradiated milk. None gave consent. In Tennessee, 829 pregnant mothers took a vitamin drink to improve their baby’s health. The mothers weren’t told the “vitamin” was actually radioactive iron. In Massachusetts, the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission fed 73 mentally disabled children oatmeal. The secret ingredient? Radioactive calcium. (Officials told the kids that if they ate the porridge, they would join a “science club.”) From 1960 to 1971, the Department of Defense conducted whole body radiation experiments on black cancer patients, who thought they were receiving treatment. Instead, the DOD used the test to calculate how humans reacted to high levels of radiation.

The United States also conducted hundreds of unannounced nuclear tests. In 1957, Operation Plumbob saw 29 nuclear explosions boom in America’s southwest. The explosions, which 18,000 soldiers watched nearby, released 58 curies of radioactive iodine"enough radiation to cause 11,000 to 212,000 cases of thyroid cancer. Through the 1950s alone, over 400,000 people became “atomic veterans.” Many didn’t know it.

Conspiracy #7: The government is staging terrorist attacks on itself.
The Truth: Military officials once suggested staging phony terrorist attacks to justify war with Cuba.


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In the early 1960s, the Joint Chiefs of Staff proposed the impossible: an American attack on America. The plan suggested fake terrorist attacks on US cities and bases. The goal? To blame Cuba and drum up support for war.

Officials called the proposal Operation Northwoods. The original memo suggested that, “We could develop a communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities, and even in Washington.”

Northwoods suggested that US personnel could disguise themselves as Cuban agents. These undercover soldiers could burn ammunition and sink ships in the harbor at Guantanamo Bay. “We could blow up a US ship and blame Cuba,” the memo says.

Northwoods also included a plan to “sink a boatload of Cubans en route to Florida (real or simulated)" and suggested “an incident which will demonstrate that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a charter civil airline.” Officials planned to fake a commercial hijacking, secretly landing the plane while an identical drone crashed nearby.

When the attacks finished, the government would release incriminating documents “substantiating Cuban involvement. . .World opinion and the United Nations forum should be favorably affected by developing the international image of the Cuban government as rash and irresponsible.”

President Kennedy rejected the proposal.

Conspiracy #8: The government is manipulating the media.
The Truth: From 1948 to 1972, over 400 journalists secretly carried out assignments for the CIA.


If you think the spinning on news channels today is bad, imagine what it’d be like if the CIA still steered the ship. Under Operation Mockingbird, the CIA’s sticky fingers touched over 300 newspapers and magazines, including The New York Times, Newsweek, and the Washington Post.

Over 400 journalists were in cahoots with the CIA. They promoted the Agency’s views and provided services: spying in foreign countries, gathering intelligence, and publishing reports written by the Agency. Sometimes, CIA Head Frank Wisner commissioned journalists to write pro-government articles at home and abroad. And, as if a CIA spin weren’t enough, the Agency also paid editors to keep anti-government pieces off the presses. Journalists with ties to the CIA also planted false intelligence in newsrooms so that unconnected reporters would pick it up and write about it.

The CIA teamed up with journalists because many reporters had strong foreign ties. A journalist reporting from abroad could gather information that the CIA couldn’t, and he could plant propaganda better, too.

Although a congressional hearing in the 1970s put an end to inside jobs, Big Brother still manipulates markets elsewhere. In 2005, the government spent $300 million placing pro-American messages in foreign media outlets"an attempt to hamper extremists and sway support.

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Scientists Capture the First Footage of an Anglerfish’s Parasitic Mating Ritual
BY SHAUNACY FERRO MARCH 23, 2018
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The deep sea is full of alien-looking creatures, and the fanfin anglerfish is no exception. The toothy Caulophryne jordani, with its expandable stomach and glowing lure and fin rays, is notable not just for its weird looks, but also its odd mating method, which has been captured in the wild on video for the first time, as CNET and Science report.

If you saw a male anglerfish and a female anglerfish together, you would probably not recognize them as the same species. In fact, in the video below, you might not be able to find the male at all. The male anglerfish is lure-less and teeny-tiny (as much as 60 times smaller in length) compared to his lady love.

And he's kind of a deadbeat boyfriend. The male anglerfish attaches to the female's belly in a parasitic mating ritual that involves biting into her and latching on, fusing with her so that he can get his nutrients straight from her blood. He stays there for the rest of his fishy life, fertilizing her eggs and eventually becoming part of her body completely.

Observing an anglerfish in action, or really at all, is extremely difficult. There are only 14 dead specimens from this particular anglerfish species held at natural history museums throughout the world, and they are all female. Since anglerfish can't live in the lab, seeing them in their natural habitat is the only way to observe them. This video, shot in 2016 off the coast of Portugal by researchers with the Rebikoff-Niggeler Foundation, is only the third time we've been able to record deep-sea anglerfish behavior.

Take a look for yourself, and be grateful that your own relationship isn't quite so codependent.




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Most people are all too aware that cockroaches are horrifyingly resilient beings. Yes, they can and have survived nuclear blasts, and surely stand to inherit the Earth after we all succumb to the apocalypse. Why is this creature able to thrive in the face of pesticides, the loss of limbs, disgusting conditions, a range of climates, and even nuclear fallout, in urban kitchens across the world? As Inside Science reports, a new study on the genome of the American cockroach shows that certain genes are key to its wild evolutionary success.

In an article published in Nature Communications, researchers from South China Normal University in Guangzhou, China report that they sequenced and analyzed the genome of Periplaneta americana, and in the process they discovered just how indestructible this scourge is. They found that the cockroach (native to Africa, despite its American moniker) has more DNA than any other insect whose DNA has been sequenced except the migratory locust. The size of its genome"3.3 billion base pairs"is comparable to that of humans.

They have a huge number of gene families (several times the number other insects have) related to sensory reception, with 154 smell receptors and 522 taste receptors, including 329 taste receptors specifically related to bitter tastes. These extra smell and taste receptors may help cockroaches avoid toxic food (say, your household pesticide) and give them the ability to adapt to a multitude of different diets in different environments.

They also have killer immune systems able to withstand pathogens they might pick up from the rotting food they eat and the filth they like to live in. They have many more genes related to immunity compared to other insects.

The genome analysis might give us more than just a newfound respect for this revolting pest. The researchers hope to find a way to harness this new knowledge of cockroach immunity to control vermin populations"and create an eradication method slightly more effective than just stomping on them.



#77
RANT ROOM / £120billion of your money dow...
Last post by THE FUGITIVE - March 28, 2018, 04:24:43 PM
Wasteful spending by the public sector on useless projects costs every British household £4,500 a year - enough to 'buy a luxury holiday for every family', a pressure group has claimed.
The TaxPayers’ Alliance has identified cuts that it says could save about £120billion " effectively wiping out the UK’s budget deficit " without ‘closing a single hospital, firing a single teacher or disbanding a single regiment’.
The organisation has collated a list of ‘ludicrous examples of wasteful spending’ " including the Ministry of Defence paying £22 for a light bulb and the Arts Council squandering £95,000 on an installation comprising a skip covered in yellow lights.


Some £19,000 was spent by Cotswold District Council on hiring a ‘motivational magician’ to boost staff morale, while Labour-run Durham Council gave chiefs a £12,000 clothing allowance, which Prime Minister David Cameron derided as ‘Geordie Armani’.

Ministers and officials ate £3 million worth of biscuits in 2011-2012 and spent £45 million on taxis to move prisoners and staff around the country.
More than £20 billion is lost through public sector fraud and £15 billion on duplicated procurement across Whitehall departments and councils.
The Home Office spent £427,000 on rubber bullets police are not even allowed tom use.
Crawley Council Spent £5,070 on 12,200 hot drinks from vending machines for employees, when the equivalent number of tea bags would have cost just £200.
The alleged wasteful spending - a sixth of the total government expenditure - is more than the whole of the NHS budget and five times the amount spent by the Ministry of Defence.
A spokesman for alliance said: ' This equates to a massive £4,500 for every household inn the UK - enough to give every family in the land a luxury holiday or pay their household energy bills three times over.'
In its annual Big Bumper Book of Government Waste, the TaxPayers’ Alliance recommends a number of major reforms to claw back cash, including shaving £53billion off the pay and pensions packages of public sector workers.
This is the amount it claims these workers are being overpaid compared with the private sector average.
‘Nearly £120billion of taxpayers’ money was wasted or spent on useless projects by the Government in 2011-12,’ the report states.
‘We have identified and listed hundreds of examples of spending by politicians and bureaucrats that can be cut without closing a single hospital, firing a single teacher or disbanding a single regiment.’
According to the research " which the pressure group said is based on official statistics, independent reports and media coverage " £25billion was wasted that year through inefficient public sector procurement and poor use of outsourcing, while £20.3billion was lost through public sector fraud.
About £5billion was paid out in benefits to claimants with an income in excess of £100,000, while £1.2billion was paid out in an annual subsidy to foreign farmers through the EU’s Common Agricultural Policy.
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HISTORY / MYSTERY / (mirror online)10 crimes that ...
Last post by THE FUGITIVE - March 28, 2018, 04:18:59 PM
1 - The Shepherd's Bush murders - the Massacre of Braybrook Street

On August 12th 1966, three detectives in an unmarked police ‘Q’ car spotted a battered Standard Vanguard estate car containing three men parked in a side street near Wormwood Scrubs prison in west London.

Suspecting the men might be part of a planned prison break from the jail, and because the car had no tax disc, Detective Constable David Wombwell and Detective Constable Chris Head got out of their car to speak to the occupants.

After a few moments' conversation one of the men in the car, professional criminal Harry Roberts, produced a hidden Luger pistol and shot DC Wombwell dead.

Detective Sergeant Fox tried to run back to the police car but Roberts chased him and killed him with a bullet to the head.

At the same time another of the car’s occupants, John Duddy, armed with a Webley revolver, ran up to the police car and shot dead Pc Geoffrey Fox as he sat behind the steering wheel.

The police murders sparked huge public outrage with demands that the recently abolished death penalty be re-instated.
Witney and Duddy were quickly arrested but Roberts stayed on the run, hiding in Epping Forest until he was captured in Hertfordshire three months after the massacre.

All three men were jailed for 30 years. Duddy died in Jail. Witney was released but murdered by another criminal in 1999.

Roberts, now aged 77, is still considered a risk to the public and remains in prison.

2 - The assassination of Airey Neave

Airey Neave, a leading Conservative MP and shadow cabinet minister, was assassinated as he drove his car out of the car park under the House of Commons on 30 March 1979.

A bomb, activated by a mercury tilt switch, exploded under his Vauxhall as the 63 year old politician drove up the exit ramp.

Neave, who had been appointed shadow Minister for Northern Ireland by Margaret Thatcher, died hours later from terrible injuries.

The Irish National Liberation Army, a break away group from the Provisional IRA, claimed responsibility.

The incident was the only ever murder of a politician inside the Houses of Parliament and caused public outrage.

Years later a debate raged over who actually killed him, with some politicians claiming Neave was murdered by MI6 and the CIA because he was going to expose spies inside Western Intelligence.

No one has ever been convicted of his murder.

3 - The murder of James Bulger

James Bulger, who was just short of his third birthday, was murdered in February 1993 by two ten-year-old boys who lured him away from a Liverpool shopping arcade while his mother was distracted.

The boys, Robert Thompson and Jon Venables, led the crying toddler on a two and a half mile walk across the city to Walton.
There, on a rarely used piece of railway, they used bricks and sticks to beat and torture him and finally killed him by repeatedly dropping a 22lbs piece of steel railway track on his head.

The killers then placed his body across a rail hoping people would think he had been killed by a train.

When he was found two days later his body had been cut in half by a freight train but police examinations showed he was already dead before he was run over.

CCTV from the shopping centre showed him being led away by the two older boys, who were soon caught.

Thompson and Venables were tried and convicted, becoming the youngest murderers ever in British history.

4 - Donald Neilson and Lesley Whittle

Nicknamed The Black Panther, Donald Neilson was a ruthless solo serial killer and kidnapper.

During 1974 Neilson broke into post offices in Harrogate, Accrington and the Midlands in the dead of night and shot dead three post masters while robbing their businesses.

In January 1975 he changed his modus operandi. He broke into a house at Highley, Shropshire, and kidnapped 17-year-old Lesley Whittle, whose wealthy family ran a coach firm.
Neilson kept the terrified teenager hostage in an underground ‘tomb’ " a drainage shaft, in Bathpool Park, Staffordshire - while he tried to negotiate a £50,000 ransom from her family.

Through a series of blunders, the negotiations broke down.

Lesley Whittle’s emaciated body was found hanged by a wire noose in a drainage shaft two months after she had vanished.

Neilson disappeared but later that year he was spotted by chance by police patrolling in Nottinghamshire.

After a struggle inside a patrol car in which Neilson’s sawn off shotgun blew a hole in the roof, he was overpowered.

5 - Harold Shipman

Family doctor Harold Shipman is known to have murdered 218 of his patients, but many believe the number over his career may have been 355.

Shipman, who was 54 when he was caught, worked in Hyde in Cheshire. He dispatched his victims at their own homes with deadly injections of diamorphine.

Eighty per cent of his victims were elderly women, but his youngest victim was a man aged only 41.

He got away with it for years because he alone signed the death certificates and because of a reluctance by officials to believe a family doctor could be a serial killer.

Concerns were first raised about his activities in 1998 when a local undertaker told police an unusually large number of his patients were dying. But an initial police investigation cleared him.

His undoing came the following year when he altered the will of an elderly patient who died making him the beneficiary of her £386,000 estate.

Shipman was jailed for life in 2000. He hanged himself in Wakefield jail in 2004.

6 - Mary Bell

Mary Bell was only 10 when she murdered the first of her two victims in Newcastle in May 1968.

It was the day before her 11th birthday when she strangled four year old Martin Brown in a derelict house in the Scotswood district.

Two months later she killed again. Three-year-old Brian Howe was battered and strangled and his body mutilated.

Bell was arrested and put on trial, but pleaded guilty to manslaughter on the grounds of diminished responsibility.
She was released aged 23 in 1980 and a plea to a court that her identity should not be revealed by the media was accepted by the High Court under what became known as the Mary Bell law.

She now lives under a new name in Britain and is reported to be a grandmother.

7 - Fred and Rosemary West

The Wests, a sexually depraved and homicidal couple, were unmasked in 1994 after Gloucestershire police began investigating claims the builder had raped a member of his own family at their home at 25 Cromwell Street, Gloucester.

As the investigation continued a number of collections of human bones were found buried under floors and in the garden of the house.

Two of the bodies were those of the couple’s own daughters Charmaine and Heather.

The couple had also killed a number of other young women who they had picked up from the streets.

Although police think the couple killed 13 victims, there was only enough evidence to charge them with 11 killings.

Before killing himself in jail in 1995, Fred told witnesses he had killed 30 people, but police have found no evidence of other murders.

Rosemary West remains in jail.

8 - Great Train Robbery

In August 1963 a gang of robbers held up the Royal Mail’s Travelling Post Office train and stole £2.6 million in cash, equivalent today to £40 million.
No guns were used but when most of the gang were caught, the public outrage over the crime swayed judges to hand out 30 year jail terms.
Three of the gang, Buster Edwards, Charlie Wilson and Ronnie Biggs, spent long spells on the run after jail escapes.
The robbery has achieved legendary status and been the subject of two cinema films, Robbery in 1966 and Buster in 1990.

Many of the robbers are still alive but much of the stolen money is still unaccounted fo

9 - Lockerbie

On the night of 21 December 1988 a bomb planted in the hold of a Pan Am Boeing 747, flight 103 from London to New York, exploded as the plane flew over the Scottish market town of Lockerbie.

It had been hidden in the plane at Heathrow airport.

All the 259 passengers and crew on the plane and 11 people in their homes were killed in the worst act of mass murder in British history.

Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi was convicted of planting the bomb at a special court in Holland.

It is believed the attack was ordered by the former Libyan leader Colonel Gadaffi.

10 - Fagan and the Queen

On the night of 9 July 1982, the Queen woke up in her apartments at Buckingham Palace to find a man sitting on the end of her bed.

He was drunken cat burglar Michael Fagan, 31, and he later confessed it was the second time he had breached security to break into the supposedly ‘impregnable’ palace.
At the time, the Royal family were under assassination threat from the IRA.

The crime was an extreme embarrassment to PM Margaret Thatcher and the head of Scotland Yard’s Royal Protection Squad was sacked.

Fagan apologised to the Queen and was sentenced to a short jail term.
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CONSPIRACY ZONE / Re: WHO WAS JACK THE RIPPER ?
Last post by THE FUGITIVE - March 28, 2018, 03:20:44 PM
I think from watching various reports and documentries that whoever he was he had a certain medical knowledge the way he cut his victims and later the Yorkshire ripper copied this method of killing and of course that does not prove a medical background as we know the Yorkshire ripper had no medical background but it probably means whoever it was studied books on organs inside the body and knew exactly where to cut
Sadly because so many years have passed i doubt the real truth will ever come out and remember DNA was not invented then so nothing could be pinned on suspects but one thing is for sure he sounds like a man that has either been hurt by prostitutes or a man that has been hurt by women in general that should be the main clue the other main clue is obviously his knowledge of the human body
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CONSPIRACY ZONE / WHO WAS JACK THE RIPPER ?
Last post by fobrien1 - March 27, 2018, 01:00:46 AM
many names have come up that could be jack the ripper . are they credible ? do you believe them ? .

ive personally watched many ripper documentaries and read about the ripper . so i know most if not all suspects .

the suspects vary from dr gull , to a polish emigrant called michael ostrog . the classic vision of the ripper is i guess a well dressed man with a deer stalker type hat and a gladstone bag . a fair argument has been made that if anyone saw such a man that they would have screamed the place down .

so then they argue it must have been someone that blended in to the poor east end . again this is a fair argument , after all such a person would look like everyone else .

i will use this thread to post multiple videos but ill start with two , these two for me offer what i feel are very plausible suspects . however we cant prove these people were guilty .

the first video is THE DIARY OF JACK THE RIPPER .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwN6VMjgw2Q

the above video centers on a man who was friends with an elderly gent , the elderly gent gave him a package an old diary , and said maybe he can earn some money out of it . the elderly man died soon after . it wasnt immediately evident whos diary it was and only at he very end was the name revealed .

the early criticisms of the diary by ripper authors etc were that the ink wasnt from 1888 , but the ink and diary were indeed from that era . another criticism was that the author used a term that was not used until years after 1888 , this also proved false , the term was A ONE OFF . the authors found that the term first appeared in dictionaries etc years after 1888 which was true . however words / terms are in use usually long before they get into dictionaries . and the term was indeed found to have been used as early as 1888 and prior to that .

information was in the diary about the victims , information that was kept from the public for about 100 years , that in itself begs the question why keep this information secret so long . this information was in regards items on or near the body that ONLY the police knew . things that were very ordinary and which would have had little significance to the police at the time . but the author of the diary was spot on and knew this information . this led the authors to one of two conclusions , the diary was a fake , faked after 1988 or most certainly genuine . all some had to state it was a fake was that they didnt want to accept it as genuine .

ill leave you guys view the video and decide for your self if you think the suspect in it JAMES MAYBRICK was a credible suspect .



the next suspect is maybe a bit of an unexpected suspect , but he must be viewed in the context of the story he was involved in .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae_ibP4J5dQ

the above video is JACK THE RIPPER : THE FINAL SOLUTION . there is a book also of the same name and the video is based on that book .

the author spoke to an old artist , the son of a famous artist walter sickert . and what the son told the author was stunning and may well be the answer to the puzzle and to all our questions .

the story is that the jack the ripper killings were the result of a 3 man team NOT one man . an east end cockey caoch driver , an acknowledged nasty piece of work . dr gull who was inside the coach . and a third man who was the subject of the video and the book . prince eddie (victorias grandson ) frequented an east end area and was friends with the third man .a few things happened that could embroil the royalty in a scandal that could destroy the monarchy . one was that eddie had a relationship with a commoner that bore him a daughter . the other ? well a documented scandal in that same area that involved known people at that time visiting a homosexual brothel for want of a better term .

and a blackmail attempt . this involved several prostitutes who knew eddie and his childs mother .

a combination of the above led to the three above mentioned men working together to remove the problems that could destroy the royals . one thing noted at the time was that despite the grissly nature of the public murders of the first 4 women was that despite them being badly stabbed and slashed , throat cut from ear to ear that there was very little blood . all most as tho they were killed elsewhere and the bodies dropped in the areas they were found . this story and the author posit that the first four were killed inside the coach . the author also posits that there was atleast one other kiling before the main five , and that there is reason to believe that there were a few others after .

most certainly scotland yard shut this case down very quickly . a few of the autopsies were controlled so as to keep information from coming out . i have read the book that the video is based on , i have to say it was engrossing and very hard to put down .

i welcome any comments and views on the above and on the videos above .