LONE NUT ADVOCATES

Started by fobrien1, January 20, 2018, 01:42:24 AM

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lone nut advocates or LNs for short are people who believe or state that lee harvey oswald acted alone as the warren commission said .

they have a one sided opinion , belief or stance on this very tragic part of history . its black or its white , there are no grey areas .

there are two or maybe three types of LN . i know there are some honest people whether researched or not who believe for one reason or another that oswald acted alone . i have absolutely no problem at all with that , everyone is entitled to their opinion .

my problem is with two other types of LN both of whom are deceptive and dishonest . the first being people LNs that are shown that what they believe or claim is not only wrong but often wholly inaccurate and yet they refuse to admit they are wrong  . in fact they then go and again repeat post the same stuff they know has been proven wrong . this is ether deluded or highly deceptive or both . these sort of people are unreachable as are the next group of people but for different reasons .

the other group of LNs are those that have some sort of agenda , even if they say they dont one can only come away from what they post and how they act believing that they do have an agenda .

i view youtube videos a lot and i comment on them . one video thread is the video beyond conspiracy , and the uploader is david emerling .SO IN THIS POST LETS LOOK AT MR EMERLING  . now this guy is not not stupid , he is intelligent and he knows the evidence in this case . but yet i find myself saying to him multiple times that i cant understand how such an intelligent person as he is can post and say some of the things he says .

a few examples .

if you read what he posts especially if he is replying to newbies he posts that the 3 men (pathologists ) who performed jfks autopsy viewed and studied his wounds FOR SOME 4 HOURS and that they are the best people to tell us about those wounds . but i know and i make a point of posting it that DAVID DOESNT ACCEPT WHAT THESE THREE MEN SAID ABOUT JFKS HEAD WOUND ENTRY .

the pathologists who david said viewed and studied jfks wounds for some 4 hours and who he says are the very best people to tell us about these wounds said that jfks head entry wound was LOW ON THE BACK OF THE HEAD , just off center and roughly just above where the hair on the lower back of the head meets the neck . they even provided a photo of the wound . yet david often doesnt mention that HE DOESNT ACCEPT WHAT THESE MEN SAID . so he is contradicting himself , on the one hand saying the pathologists studied the wounds and they told us about them , and they are the best people to do so . and all the while HE DOESNT ACCEPT WHERE THEY SAID JFKS HEAD WOUND ENTRY POINT WAS .

there is a good reason why he doesnt accept the low back of the head entry wound ITS BECAUSE ITS TOO LOW , its a bit lower than the supposed front right exit point . you must remember that oswald was supposedly shooting downward and right to left from 6 floors above . so its not unreasonable to say that a bullet traveling downward probably should exit lower than the entry point . david says the entry point on the head was 4 to 5 inches higher up in the crown of the head , where a man might have a bald spot . why would he decide that ? well because the clark panel with no real evidence decided they needed to move the entry wound position up there , it was a case of JUST TAKE OUR WORDS FOR IT . they clearly knew the low entry position didnt work within a lone nut scenario , so they moved the wound position to suit their scenario .

the hsca followed and they likewise again with no real evidence moved the head entry position up , even despite the vehement protests of the pathologists . the hsca even had ida dox make a drawing of jfks head wound and to highlight a small wound of entry HIGH on the top of the head . thats right  DRAWING not an autopsy photo , not one of the commissions who supposedly investigated this case ever published or released a single autopsy photo . the photos in existence are copies that were liberated by robert groden when he was on the hsca . so the clark panel provided no proof JUST TAKE THEIR WORD , and the hsca provided a DRAWING and also said take their word . a drawing that seems to show a small wound where NONE EXISTS on the available autopsy photos .

that is what david emerling hangs his hat on , he takes the above (from people that never say and never studied jfks wounds ) and accepts it fully yet he refuses to accept the word of the 3 men who even he says studied jfks wounds some 4 hours and who HE SAYS are the best people to tell us about jfks wounds . THIS IS THE LONE NUT ADVOCATE MENTALITY .

he continually posts that the rifle found in the depository was oswalds rifle ,which he received at his post office box using the name A HIDELL . he states it continually as tho its 100% proven fact . this despite the fact that there are serious problems with what he claims . firstly the rifle found in the book depository was provably a 40 inch rifle . the rifle that kliens said they shipped to oswald is a 36 inch rifle , kliens dispatch documentation has information on it .

the official version of events always has it that oswald used the name A HIDELL at his dallas post office box  , but that they couldnt prove that because the silly post office threw away part 3 of the form . even a cursory check of po regulations etc in dallas in 1963 will tell you that they had a 3 part post office box application form and that anyone in addition to the box owner who has permission to receive mail at that po box must have their name on part 3 . for example oswald might want his wife to use the box for her mail , so he had to put her name on part 3 of the form . he also had to put A HIDELL on the form . this is authorizing them to use the box and receive mail in it . what the official version of events doesnt tell us is that the fbi gave the warren commission a document stating they investigated and found that oswald AND ONLY OSWALD was authorized to receive mail at oswalds po box . in case the obvious is not obvious that means the fbi had part 3 of the application form , it wasnt discarded by the post office , and the warren commission knew this because they fbi told them so .

so not only was the weapon that kliens said they sent only 36 inches meaning it cant be the 40 inch rifle found in the building , but oswald couldnt receive mail at his po box under the name HIDELL . the post office was asked what their regulations were at that time in regards mail received for a name that was not authorized to receive mail . they said that if a check revealed that the addressee was not known at the address in question (the po box) that the mail would be endorsed ADDRESSEE UNKNOWN and returned to sender . so there you have it . a 36 inch rifle sent and a 40 inch rifle found , and hidell was never authorized to receive mail at oswalds po box . but thats not all . the warren commission said oswald went to the post office , bought a money order and walked a distance and posted it , the money order was for the rifle . but the warren commission did a check and they found that the money order had to have been bought and posted between 8am and no later than 10.30 am . HAVE A GUESS WHAT ? oswald was at work at that time , all that morning and atleast up to lunch time , and the warren commission knew this because they had his work records .

david emerling seems to see no problems with any of the above .

he also says repeatedly that ce399 a bullet in evidence was fired by oswald from the rifle in question . now imagine david is a prosecution lawyer and you are on the jury . now imagine he is telling you that oswald went and bought and posted a money order BUT YOU CAN IGNORE THE FACT THAT HIS WORK RECORDS SAY THAT HE WAS IN WORK AT THAT TIME . now imagine he tells you that oswalds 40 inch rifle was found in the building BUT YOU CAN IGNORE THE FACT THAT KLIENS DOCUMENTATION SAYS THAT THEY SENT A 36 INCH RIFLE . and then imagine that he tells you that oswald received the rifle under the name A HIDELL at his po box BUT YOU CAN FORGET THAT THE FBI SAID THAT NEITHER HIDELL OR ANY OTEHR WAS AUTHORIZED TO RECEIVE MAIL AT OSWALDS PO BOX . now what would you be thinking ? .

but we will finish this post with what i just mentioned above ce399 . david says this bullet was found at parkland hospital and that it matches the rifle . what david does not mention is that 3 men were involved in the finding and handling of a bullet at parkland , i say A BULLET i dont say ce399 , i have a very good reason for saying that . firstly officially the bullet fell from connallys stretcher , THIS IS FALSE , darrell tomlinson who found it said multiple times for the record that connallys stretcher was in the elevator and that the bullet fell from a stretcher that was already in the corridor by the wall . tomlinson was not alone , a man called nathan pool also saw the bullet . and they gave it to a man called o p wright . both wright and pool gave independent statements saying the bullet they saw HAD A POINTED TIP . both were hunting men and wright was former dallas police , so they knew weapons and ammo quite well . ce399 has a round nose . none of these 3 men ever identified ce399 as the bullet they saw and handled . in a court of law there is a thing called a chain of evidence , that is if a bullet is to be allowed into court as evidence the prosecution must prove that it really is evidence . that is they must provide evidence authenticating the evidence from when it was found to when it arrives on the judges desk .

that would mean tomlinson was asked to mark the bullet with his initials , the pool , then wright and then ever agent after that that handled it right up to the guy that walked it into the court . that way they can then call tomlinson to court IS THAT YOR INITIALS ? oh yes it is , is that the bullet you saw ? yes it is , and the same for all people in that chain of custody . THAT NEVER HAPPENED . ce399 has no proper chain of custody . and mr emerling wont reveal that to you .

so is mr emerling an honest man who hasnt a full grasp of the evidence and facts ? or is he deluded ? , or is he a dishonest man with an agenda ? . i cant say he is deluded because i dont believe he is . i know he knows the evidence and facts in this case quite well , so that rules out the first two . well now i always an honest man is always willing to admit the truth , to admit they are wrong . yet david admits none of the above , in fact he wont even mention it until he is contradicted with it . and despite his repeatedly been shown the above facts he continues to recycle and repeat claims he knows are at best seriously problematic . as an example he says repeatedly THAT THE SNIPERS NEST HAD OSWALDS PRINTS ALL OVER IT . i refuted such a notion with provable facts , facts that state that in fact all they found were 3 prints on 2 boxes , prints that the expert said could have been there hours or as long as 3 days . lets not forget oswald handled all those boxes filling book orders . when i asked david to recant his false claim and admit it was inaccurate HE REFUSED TO DO SO .

so i think ill let the readers here decide whether david is honest but not well researched , deluded and biased , or dishonest with an agenda . the truth is what it is , if it can be proven that oswald acted alone SO BE IT , i would be happy because we would then have the truth . i am not biased and i dont have an agenda , i just want the truth what ever it may be .
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