THE SINGLE BULLET THEORY

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now if you dont know what this is well its a vital part of the official lone assassin version of events . if this theory falls apart SO DOES THE OFFICIAL LONE ASSASSIN CONCLUSION .

so here is the single bullet theory .

lee harvery oswald fired 3 shots , either the first shot or the second (the warren commission couldnt say which one ) struck jfk in the upper right side of his neck , it traveled downward unmolested STRIKING NO BONES , and then exited below the adams apple . where upon this bullet (the bullet is called ce399)  then entered john connallys back in the area very close to the right armpit . that is the area of the curve on the right side of the back that is very close to the right arm pit . it then destroyed 4 to 5 inches of connallys rib . after that it exits under the right nipple , slams into his right wrist and smashes it , and then exits the right wrist and embeds it self in the left thigh .

now to anyone who is an LN (lone assassin believer ) or anyone who has not researched or no intention of researching the above single bullet theory / scenario may seem like perfect sense . but when you research you see a different picture THE REAL PICTURE . lets see

ok the single bullet theory starts on the upper right side of jfks neck , if you watch jfk documentaries on main stream tv be that history or discover or pbs , and even dale myers jfk animation odds are that you will see one type of colored line or another indicating the path of the bullet ce399 , and it will all most inevitably have a path that goes smack dab through the upper right side of the neck .

in the above video at 17 seconds in you can see a white line entering the rear of jfks white shirt collar , thats how high pbs says the bullet entered jfk .

here is the above again in still picture format



here is a look at dale myers version of the bullet entry



now just above are 6 pictures , the middle picture if the top 3 is interesting , look at that picture and then look at photo number 3 in the bottom 3 photos , thats the photo that is bottom right . both photos are from dale myers and show SUPPOSEDLY the same thing . anyone see anything peculiar ? .

in the center top photo look at jfks jacket collar , its all the way up to the hair line at the back of the head . and also in a position that on a real man would probably be about 3 inches above the top of the white shirt collar . now if it was cold and one PULLED UP the jacket collar to cover their neck the jacket collar might stretch up that far (jfk didnt do that )  . but other wise it would be at a similar level to the top of the white shirt collar . now look again at the same area in the photo bottom right . NOTICE HOW THE JACKET COLLAR IS AT THE SAME LEVEL AS THE SHIRT COLLAR ? , its now in its correct position . now the front throat wound exit depicted in the above two photos is right through the lower part of the shirt collar , and we know that officially the entry wound was HIGHER than the exit . so then from that we can see that even myers animation atleast has the bullet entering on the upper of the white shirt collar .

this is standard LN nonsense . there was no bullet damage on the rear of the shirt collar . in fact if you look at the center bottom photo you will see the actual hole in jfks shirt .so how far down from the bottom of the rear of the shirt collar is that hole ? . jfks jacket has a corresponding hole in it . what



above you will see arlen specter with his pointing rod trying to show you the single bullet theory . take a look at mr specters hand (that is holding the pointing rod ) look just below his little finger , and look at the rear of the jacket of the jfk stand in , DO YOU SEE THE WHITE MARK ON THE JACKET ? . well believe it or not that was a mark placed there to represent the location of the entry wound on jfk . NOTE THE POINTING ROD is at the level of the top of the shirt collar , you can see from that where myers and the mainstream media get the shirt collar entry level cant you ? lol . but the white mark on the rear of the jacket several inches lower down REVEALS ALL .

so we have seen jfks shirt , with no damage to the collar . we have seen that same shirt with a hole several inches below shoulder level . and we have seen the warren commission accurately mark the the rear of the jacket of the jfk stand in with a white mark . ANYONE STILL THINK THAT THE BULLET ENTERED JFK ON THE UPPER RIGHT NECK IN THE AREA OF THE SHIRT COLLAR ? .



just to hammer the point home above is jfks jacket NOTE THE LOCATION OF THE BULLET HOLE .

now i will take into consideration arguments that there may have been a little bunching of the jacket and shirt , so that might put the hole positions on shirt and collar a tad higher . but in no way all the way UP ON THE COLLAR .

so what does all this mean ? , well it means at the least that the warren commission and arlen specter lied about the entry wound position , it wasnt on the upper right of the neck but in fact several inches below shoulder level .

it also shows that the mainstream media and jfk authors perpetuate this lie .

it means something else also . you must remember that mr oswald was supposedly 6 floors above jfk FIRING DOWN . so naturally from that (unless a bullet hit bone which in this case the WC said it did not ) you must expect a high entry point and a lower exit point , what we now have and can see is that the entry position was quite a bit lower down than we were told . in fact it may surprise you to hear that the WC (warren commission) admitted in their sealed away executive sessions that the wound we are talking about here was LOWER than the throat wound . but they sealed away the executive sessions for 75 years minimal SO WE COULDNT SEE THE TRUTH and then as we can see above THEY LIED .

the HSCA (house select committee on assassinations ) in the late 70s also said the wound was LOWER than the throat wound . but they also lied . the HSCA tried to falsely say that jfk was leaning markedly forward just prior to being hit , they used that lie as a means to say that AS HE WAS LEANING SO FAR FORWARD THAT STRICTLY SPEAKING A BULLET COULD APPEAR TO HAVE ENTERED LOWER AND EXITED HIGHER .

look at the zapruder film , nix and other film of jfk on elm street that day just prior to when he first reacted to being hit and you will see he was not leaning markedly forward . so i feel to any reasonable , intelligent and well researched person , and even to people who view the above info with an honest and open mind that we can dispense with any notion of a bullet entering the area of jfks shirt collar .

that means that the starting point of the single bullet theory fails , it fails because it starts with a lie that 54 years later is still being perpetuated by main stream media and certain authors who seek to deceive you .

if the single bullet theory fails here AND IT DOES so does the single bullet theory . but lets put another nail in the coffin of this particular part of the single bullet theory . i mean just in case any doubts that the the WC and specter didnt lie still linger .

the trajectory (angle ) from the 6th floor window to the location on elm street where jfk first reacted to being hit is some 21 degrees . the BACK wound is at roughly 10 to 11 degrees . that to any reasonable mind says and means that the 6th floor window
is too high to have created that wound , too high by almost double . what this should tell you is that the BACK wound had to have resulted from an angle of the level of the 2nd or 3rd floor .

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for this next post lets look at ce399 the so called magic bullet .

our lone nut advocate friends dont like the term magic bullet , that leads them to attempt the silliness of attempting to state that people LIKE ME actually think ce399 really was magic LOL LOL LOL.

of course there are no such things as magic bullets in real life . and people like me NEVER have said the bullet was magical in any way . in FACT what our lone nut advocate friends dont seem to realize is that the term magic bullet theory is simply a TERM OF RIDICULE .

in essence this bullet was made to do what ever arlen specter and the warren commission (WC) needed of it . we have seen in my first post above that they needed it to enter jfk at about the level of the shirt collar WE ALSO SAW THAT THEY LIED ABOUT THAT .

before i go further you people need to know two very important things . the first is that the FBI investigated (supposedly) before the warren commission , they confiscated all the evidence even tho and even by hoovers admission THEY HAD NO JURISDICTION . they only had jurisdiction if a crime was a federal crime , in 1963 it was not a federal crime to murder the president . so LBJ called hoover and asked him to take over the case .

the FBI concluded that there were 3 shots (because they only had 3 shells ) , they said shot 1 hit jfk , shot 2 hit connally , shot 3 hit jfk . they had no single bullet theory and also NO MISSED SHOT . whats that you say ? A MISSED SHOT ? . well yes you see james tague was stood beneath the railroad overpass , he was between the commerce street lane and the main street lane . a bullet struck the curb where he stood , that caused either a fragment of bullet or a piece of concrete to fly up and hit tague in the face cutting his cheek . the FBI decided to ignore that bullet / shot and also mr tague .

so why would they ignore mr tague and his wounding ? . well they knew that if oswald was shooting that based on the zapruder film he had only about 6 seconds for all 3 shots . its not impossible to fire 3 shots in that time but you must remember jfk was in a car (a moving target ) moving away and left to right and down a slope . so you have to fire , recycle the bolt , re aquire the moving target and fire again . our lone nut advocate friends will tell you it was atleast 8.5 seconds , this is because they need to give oswald as much extra time to shoot as they can . they will do that by asserting that the first shot was fired at z160 , z is short for zapruder film frame , and 160 is the number of the frame . some LNs go even further , one guy argued with me that the first shot was as early as between z110 and z130 which would put the limo still on houston street or mid turn on to elm . that means mr oswald had to face towards houston and not down elm . but anyway the FBI had 3 shots and about 6 seconds , and NO MORE TIME for any more shots , and 3 plus 1 = 4 . in case you dont realize 4 SHOTS EQUATES TO TWO SHOOTERS AND A CONSPIRACY . so that is why the FBI had no missed shot .

the warren commission in effect were all set to conclude what the FBI concluded . i mentioned in my earlier post the warren commission executive sessions . they are available on line , i may paste the relevant segment here later , but in it they discussed in private the FBI . they admitted the FBI was not investigation all evidence in this case ,they had their man ITS BEEN DECIDED,  in essence the commission said WE CONCLUDE WHAT THE FBI CONCLUDED (oswald did it END OF ) AND WE CAN ALL GO HOME . the warren commission decided as with the FBI to ignore james tague / his wounding and the bullet that caused that wounding .

and they did so for the same reasons as the FBI 3 + 1 = 4 WHICH EQUALS CONSPIRACY . mr tague having been ignored by the FBI was not going to let that happen again . when he realized the warren commission were ignoring him also he decided to put things right . he made sure they could no longer ignore him . the warren commission then had no choice but to call him in and speak to him . also they could not ignore the damage to the curb where tague stood and atleast one cop who saw the damage to it and tague .

that led them to a re think . there is an old expression NECESSITY IS THE MOTHER OF ALL INVENTION . the warren commission now had 3 shots , 3 hits and also mr tague being injured from another bullet . 3 + 1 = 4 and that equals conspiracy . and then AND ONLY THEN was the single bullet theory born of NECESSITY , remember that old expression just above lol . so specter invented the single bullet theory out of necessity .

think about this , the warren commission had all the medical evidence and the autopsy materials . at no time before tague did the warren commission think that a bullet entered jfks back and exited his throat and that it went on to strike connally . only when tague came along and only when they had an extra bullet to account for did they come up with the single bullet theory . and we have seen above that that the single bullet theory is already in serious trouble and fails with the first wound attributed to it .

remember now that ce399 is supposed to have DESTROYED 4 to 5 inches of connallys rib . it is supposed to have SMASHED connallys right wrist and causing 7 wounds to both men . so lets look at the bullet ce399



above are 4 views of ce399 , WHY 4 VIEWS ? well our lone nut advocate friends will complain if you cant see the bullet from as many angles as possible . so you have two side views , a view of the nose and a view of the base . the base of the bullet has some flattening but other than that ALL damage to the bullet was caused by the FBI taking samples .

now so far does ce399 above look like it destroyed 4 to 5 inches of a large mans rib , and smashed his wrist ? . the wrist being one of the hardest bones in the human body . and that it cause a total of 7 wounds to two men ? .



the above photo (from left to right) shows ce399 the magic bullet , then it shows two bullets that are ce572 , and then ce853 and lastly ce856

now the first bullet on the left as i said is ce399 , the next two bullets that comprise ce572 are two bullets that were fired into NOTHING MORE than cotton wadding , ce853 was fired in to a goat rib . and ce856 was fired at the wrist of a human cadaver . anyone see the problem here ?. well lets put it this way look at the first bullet on the left ce399 , now look from left to right at the other 4 test bullets , now WHICH OF THE TEST BULLETS MOST RESEMBLES THE CONDITION OF CE399 ? . im certain every open minded and honest person will say ce572 the two bullets fired into nothing more than cotton wadding .

Mr. SPECTER. Now looking at that bullet, Exhibit 399, Doctor Humes, could that bullet have gone through or been any part of the fragment passing through President Kennedy's head in Exhibit No. 388?

Commander HUMES. I do not believe so, sir.

Mr. SPECTER. And could that missile have made the wound on Governor Connally's right wrist?

Commander HUMES. I think that that is most unlikely ... The reason I believe it most unlikely that this missile could have inflicted either of these wounds is that this missile is basically intact; its jacket appears to me to be intact, and I do not understand how it could possibly have left fragments in either of these locations.

Mr. SPECTER. Dr. Humes, under your opinion which you have just given us, what effect, if any, would that have on whether this bullet, 399, could have been the one to lodge in Governor Connally's thigh?

Commander HUMES. I think that extremely unlikely. The reports, again Exhibit 392 from Parkland, tell of an entrance wound on the lower midthigh of the Governor, and X-rays taken there are described as showing metallic fragments in the bone, which apparently by this report were not removed and are still present in Governor Connally's thigh. I can't conceive of where they came from this missile.

Representative FORD. The missile identified as Exhibit 399.

Commander HUMES. 399, sir.

above dr humes one of jfks pathologists says ITS MOST UNLIKELY THAT CE399 CAUSED CONNALLYS WRIST WOUND . he added by saying it was HIGHLY UNLIKELY that ce399 lodged in connallys thigh .

Mr. SPECTER. And could it [CE 399] have been the bullet which inflicted the wound on Governor Connally's right wrist?

Colonel FINCK. No; for the reason that there are too many fragments described in that wrist.

above is dr finck another of jfks pathologists , again he says ce399 could not have caused connallys wrist wound .

     Mr. SPECTER: What is your opinion as to whether bullet 399 could have inflicted all of the wounds on the Governor, then, without respect at this point to the wound of the President's neck?

    Dr. SHAW. I feel that there would be some difficulty in explaining all of the wounds as being inflicted by bullet Exhibit 399 without causing more in the way of loss of substance to the bullet or deformation of the bullet. (Discussion off the record.)

Dr. Shaw's testimony is interrupted at this point, and "off the record" discussions take place. Later...

    Dr. SHAW: All right. As far as the wounds of the chest are concerned, I feel that this bullet could have inflicted those wounds. But the examination of the wrist both by X-ray and at the time of surgery showed some fragments of metal that make it difficult to believe that the same missle could have caused these two wounds. There seems to be more that three grains of metal missing as far as the--I mean in the wrist.

dr shaw above connallys surgeon , his opinion is that he cant believe based on the fragment evidence alone that ce399 coukld have caused BOTH the rib and wrist damage .

Dr. BADEN: [After asking for and receiving the above wrist X-ray of Governor Connally] The wrist was explored and operated on, and recovered from the wrist was some cloth fabric which matched the jacket of Connally. Thank you. And the largest of those metal fragments, I think there are three fragments that are visible from this distance, overlay the distal radius near the wrist - the largest of those three fragments was removed by the surgeons in the course of their operation and preserved, kept at the Archives and made available to the committee many years later.

Mr. FITHIAN: The other fragments were not removed?

Dr. BADEN: The other fragments were not removed and are still present as demonstrated on subsequent X-rays available to the committee when the Governor's arm was healing.

in case its not clear here baden is admitting that while fragments were removed from connallys wrist that other fragments were never removed . also a large fragment was in connallys left thigh and that also was never removed , all the above fragments were never removed from connallys body .

so we now have medical testimony that it is highly unlikely that ce399 caused connallys wrist wound , and even two of the three pathologists saying that there were far too many fragments to be accounted for on ce399 AND YOU HAVE SEEN CE399 ABOVE its practically pristine aside from the bit of flattening at the base . we have also seen that ce399 bears the strongest resemblance to two test bullets that were fired into cotton wadding and nothing else .

IS ANYONE HAVING ANY TROUBLE WITH CE399 THE MAGIC BULLET YET ? .

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two fbi agents were at the autopsy of jfk , at all times during the autopsy atleast one of them viewed the autopsy . there is of course the LIE that both men did not see all of the autopsy , this is so that they can say they missed this or that , or so that certain parts of the fbi agents report can be dismissed . but its a lie , for the most part both agents were in the autopsy room during jfks autopsy , and atleast one agent remained at all times .

the agents were sibert and oneil , and thankfully for us and not so good for the fbi and j edgar hoover THEY WERE HONEST AGENTS who tried to do a good job .

"   During the latter stages of this autopsy, Dr. HUMES located an opening which appeared to be a bullet hole which was below the shoulders and two inches to the right of the middle line of the spinal column.
    This opening was probed by Dr. HUMES with the finger, at which time it was determined that the trajectory of the missile entering at this point had entered at a downward position of 45 to 60 degrees. Further probing determined that the distance traveled by this missile was a short distance inasmuch as the end of the opening could be felt with the finger" sibert and oneil report

above we can see that sibert and oneils report accurately placed the wound ON THE BACK below shoulder level , so there is now no doubt that the fbi knew where this wound was . the warren commission certainly also knew as we have seen above in photos . further to this the report states that humes probed the back wound HE DID . firstly with his finger and then he used a surgical probe , in both instances the end of the wound could be felt , and humes was recorded by the agents saying THERE WAS NO EXIT POINT .

the wound was shallow and just an inch or two deep WITH NO EXIT POINT .

later jfks chest was opened , all its organs removed . then jfk was sat upright , and his back wound probed again , they even raised his right arm to simulate waving while they probed . while doing this another autopsy participant was looking into the chest cavity waiting to see the metal probe emerge IT NEVER DID . the probe could be see pressing against the flesh from back to front but it never emerged . again the fbi recorded the conclusion that there was NO EXIT POINT .

at this point im sure even a layman can understand that if a bullet does not exit jfks throat it cant possibly then go on and hit connally . now im not saying a bullet cant pass through two men , of course it can , some bullets were made for that purpose . but because something could happen does not prove IT DID HAPPEN . above we can see that at autopsy they had nothing to say or prove that a bullet passed through jfks body . the fbi report goes on to say that they received a call from parkland saying jfk had a throat wound , that and only that allowed them to make a massive assumption that they never proved nor did they really try to .

the assumption being that OH HE HAD A THROAT WOUND ? OH I GUESS THAT MUST MEAN THE BULLET WENT ALL THE WAY THROUGH JFK AND EXITED HIS BODY . but hang on on minute here DID THEY FORGET THAT THEY PROBED MULTIPLE TIMES AND FOUND THAT THERE WAS NO POINT OF EXIT ?. it seems they chose to forget , because the assumption helps them with the lone assassin theory far better than the medical facts they ascertained , the fact being that multiple times they probed and found that jfks back wound had no exit point .

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at this point we have the official RIGHT OF THE NECK wound , and we have seen that in fact the wound WAS NOT on the right of the neck but in fact several inches lower down and below shoulder level . the warren commission LIED .

we have seen medical testimony stating that it was highly improbable that the bullet ce399 caused all the 7 wounds attributed to it , but specifically that it was highly improbable that ce399 caused john connallys wrist wound .

we have seen medical testimony in regards the fragments , fragments that were removed from connalys wrist , and other fragments that remained in connallys wrist and a large fragment that remained in connallys left thigh untill the day he died and were buried with him. we have seen two of the 3 pathologists say in effect that there are too many fragments , one of tghem dr humes said I CANT CONCEIVE OF WHERE THEY CAME FROM ON THAT MISSILE .

already there are multiple problems with ce399 , and with the single bullet theory . but another part of the theory has to be proven , remember the officially the bullet entered the upper right side of jfks neck , and then it EXITED under jfks adams apple . our lone nut advocate friends act like all of this is proven fact , what is proven is that the warren commission lied and that they never had any proof supporting their single bullet theory .

so what proof is their that a bullet exited jfks throat ?  lets see .

Q: Doctor, speaking of the wound to the throat area of the President as you described it, after this bullet passed through the President's throat in the manner in which you described it, would the President have been able to talk?
A: I don't know.
Q: Do you have an opinion?
A: There are many factors influencing the ability to talk or not to talk after a shot.
Q: Did you have an occasion to dissect the track of that particular bullet in the victim as it lay on the autopsy table?
A: I did not dissect the track in the neck.
Q: Why?
A: This leads us into the disclosure of medical records.
MR. OSER: Your Honor, I would like an answer from the Colonel and I would as the Court so to direct.
THE COURT: That is correct, you should answer, Doctor.
THE WITNESS: We didn't remove the organs of the neck.
BY MR. OSER:
Q: Why not, Doctor?
A: For the reason that we were told to examine the head wounds and that the --
Q: Are you saying someone told you not to dissect the track?


above is dr finck one of jfks 3 pathologists giving testimony at clay shaws trial . dr finck spoke about such things as the OFFICIAL line that a bullet entered jfks back and passed through his neck and exited his throat , or should i say he spoke about the assumption that that is what happened . but if you look just above you will see that he says HE DID NOT DISSECT THE THROAT . the throat was never dissected NOR was the tract of the wound ever traced back to the back wound , and we know from the pathologists and the fbi who recorded what they said that the back wound had NO EXIT POINT . so then the question must be asked HOW COULD FINCK POSSIBLY ASSERT THAT A BULLET ENTERED JFKS BACK / PASSED THROUGH HIM AND EXITED HIS THROAT ?. a medical legal autopsy required even back then that (and even at behesda) with such wounds that the tract of the wound be traced and that the throat be dissected THIS ACCORDING TO DR FINCK WAS NEVER DONE . so he and his fellow pathologists AND THE WARREN COMMISSION had nothing but assumption .

lets get back to dr finck

THE WITNESS: I was told that the family wanted an examination of the head, as I recall, the head and chest, but the prosectors in this autopsy didn't remove the organs of the neck, to my recollection.
BY MR. OSER:
Q: You have said they did not, I want to know why didn't you as an autopsy pathologist attempt to ascertain the track through the body which you had on the autopsy table in trying to ascertain the cause or causes of death? Why?
A: I had the cause of death.
Q: Why did you not trace the track of the wound?
A: As I recall I didn't remove these organs from the neck.
Q: I didn't hear you.
A: I examined the wounds but I didn't remove the organs of the neck.
Q: You said you didn't do this; I am asking you why didn't do this as a pathologist?
A: From what I recall I looked at the trachea, there was a tracheotomy wound the best I can remember, but I didn't dissect or remove these organs.
MR. OSER: Your Honor, I would ask Your Honor to direct the witness to answer my question.
BY MR. OSER:

as you can see mr finck was being evasive , it was a very simple question WHY AS ONE OF JFKS PATHOLOGISTS DID YOU NOT DISSECT THE NECK OR TRACE THE TRACT OF THE THROAT WOUND . and he had to be asked multiple times . there is a reason for that .

Q: I will ask you the question one more time: Why did you not dissect the track of the bullet wound that you have described today and you saw at the time of the autopsy at the time you examined the body? Why? I ask you to answer that question.
A: As I recall I was told not to, but I don't remember by whom.
Q: You were told not to but you don't remember by whom?
A: Right.
Q: Could it have been one of the Admirals or one of the Generals in the room?
A: I don't recall.
Q: Do you have any particular reason why you cannot recall at this time?
A: Because we were told to examine the head and the chest cavity, and that doesn't include the removal of the organs of the neck.
Q: You are one of the three autopsy specialist and pathologists at the time, and you saw what you described as an entrance wound in the neck area of the President of the United States who had just been assassinated, and you were only interested in the other wound but not interested in the track through his neck, is that what you are telling me?
A: I was interested in the track and I had observed the conditions of bruising between the point of entry in the back of the neck and the point of exit at the front of the neck, which is entirely compatible with the bullet path.
Q: But you were told not to go into the area of the neck, is that your testimony?
A: From what I recall, yes, but I don't remember by whom.

now we can see that finck was told NOT TO DISSECT THE THROAT . this is a crime of murder , not juts any murder but the murder of a president , and SOMEONE told finck not to perform legally REQUIRED autopsy procedures . finck tried after the above to offer excuses , excuses as to why he didnt do what was legally required of him , firstly that HE HAD CAUSE OF DEATH so the throat wound was unimportant , the law doesnt see it quite that way . he gave the excuse that the pathologists were asked by the family) to do certain things such as examine the head . so first someone UNKNOWN to him told him not to perform LEGALLY required autopsy procedures , so he didnt , then the family apparently told him WHAT THEY WANTED DONE and again he did not do what the law required of him . after the above he gave yet another excuse , that he wouldnt have dissected the throat anyway because he didnt want to create a false passage through jfks neck .

Q: Did you attempt to probe this wound in the back of the neck?
A: I did.
Q: With what?
A: With an autopsy room probe, and I did not succeed in probing from the entry in the back of the neck in any direction and I can explain this. This was due to the contraction of muscles preventing the passage of an instrument, and if I had forced the probe through the neck I may have created a false passage.
Q: Isn't this good enough reason to you as a pathologist to go further and dissect this area in an attempt to ascertain whether or not there is a passageway here as a result of a bullet?
A: I did not consider a dissection of the path.
Q: How far did the probe go into the back of the neck?
A: Repeat the question.
Q: How far did the probe go into this wound?
A: I couldn't introduce this probe for any extended depth. I tried and I can give explanations why. At times you cannot probe a path, this is because of the contraction of muscles and different layers. It is not like a pipe, like a channel. It may be extremely difficult to probe a wound through muscle.
Q: Can you give me approximately how far in this probe went?
A: The first fraction of an inch.
Q: If you had dissected this area, Doctor, wouldn't you have been able to ascertain what the track was, as you have described in this courtroom, without dissecting it?
A: I don't know.
Q: You don't know?
A: I don't know. Wounds are different in one case from another, and I did not dissect --

as you ca see excuses , excuses for why he did not do what was legally required of him by law .

Q: Let me ask you this, Doctor: Let me ask you whether or not in dealing with this particular back of the neck wound, as you describe it, whether you dissected the skin area, took a cross-section of the skin, submitted that to microscopic examination, to ascertain whether or not there was any singed area or burnt area as a result of a high speed bullet passing through the skin? Did you or did you not do that?
A: I remember removing skin at the entry at the back of the neck, or I was present when this was done, and microscopic examination was made of this wound of entry.

above is an interesting passage of testimony IF YOU KNOW WHAT THE TRUTH IS . notice he says I REMEMBER REMOVING SKIN AT THE ENTRY AT THE BACK OF THE NECK . hmm well then he has a faulty memory because we now know as fact that jfk had no such wound this dr finck cant possibly have removed skin from a wound that never existed .

Q: My question was, do you recall categorizing it as a shoulder wound as opposed to a neck wound to this person in the autopsy room?
A: I don't recall mentioning a shoulder wound. I am referring to a wound in the neck, in, the back of the neck, and a wound in the back of the head.

now finck is being arrogant and treating prosecution lawyer oser like a fool who doesnt know what he is talking about . but you must bear in mind that in 69 they still had all the autopsy photos sealed away THEY STILL DO . so finck thought he could safely lie about this wound in the back of the neck that never existed .

A: I did not see the wound of exit in the skin. I saw a hole of exit in the shirt of the President.

above is another interesting statement from finck , he says he saw a hole of exit in jfks shirt , this could be a thread all on its own . and i may well do a thread on it . but sufficed to say for now that its another lie from dr finck . there is no hole of exit on jfks shirt , there is a nick on his tie and a slit on the shirt NO HOLE . but as with the autopsy photos jfks shirt and jacket were sealed away . harold weisberg tried to get access to these , and at a later point did but not without a serious fight . they actually came out and said that they would allow pathologists to view them for research purposes . mr weisberg said why let people that potentially know nothing about the case view this evidence and in effect deny access to people like him who knew the case in depth ? . they allowed one man to look at jfks shirt and jacket and other evidence , HE WASNT A PATHOLOGIST . the man was john lattimer , it should be of no surprise that mr lattimer was a staunch lone nut advocate to the point of lying about the evidence . dr lattimer is also a thread on his own . yes he was a doctor , but not a pathologist , jim garrison had a some what unfortunate if apt name for dr lattimer , he called him THE P-SS DOCTOR . the reason for that ? well dr lattimer was a urologist lol . later gerald posner and vincent bugliosi would direct their readers to the work and vast pathology experience of dr lattimer lol lol lol , i mean why bother the very best of PROPER pathologists ? . in LN la la land our LN friends will accept the word of anyone who says what they want to hear EVEN IF IT IS LIES . and they will dismiss and ignore any proper expert that contradicts them .

a case in point is the tippit bullets , again a thread on its own . but sufficed to say that ALL seven ballistics experts between the warren commission and hsca ALL SAID that they could not match any of the 4 bullets to the pistol in evidence . the warren commission would not accept that so they brought in their own outside expert joseph nicol WHO TOLD THEM WHAT THEY WANTED TO HEAR he said he could match one bullet . now have a guess who our LN friends cite ? 7 experts in two commissions spanning 15 years ? NO ABSOLUTELY NOT lol lol , no they cite the word of one man  nicol . so they ignore 7 experts because they dont say what they want to hear .



    Mr Oser :
        How many other military personnel were present at the autopsy in the autopsy room?

    Col. Finck :
        The autopsy room was quite crowded. It is a small autopsy room, and when you are called in circumstances like that to look at the wound of the President of the United States who is dead, you don’t look around too much to ask people for their names and take notes on who they are and how many there are. I did not do so. The room was crowded with military and civilian personnel and federal agents, Secret Service agents, FBI agents, for part of the autopsy, but I cannot give you a precise breakdown as regards the attendance of the people in that autopsy room at Bethesda Naval Hospital.

    Mr Oser :
        Colonel, did you feel that you had to take orders from the Army General that was there directing the autopsy?

    Col. Finck :
        No, because there were others, there were Admirals.

    Mr Oser :
        There were Admirals?

    Col. Finck :
        Oh, yes, there were Admirals, and when you are a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army you just follow orders, and at the end of the autopsy we were specifically told â€" as I recall it, it was by Admiral Kenney, the Surgeon General of the Navy â€" this is subject to verification â€" we were told not to discuss the case.

the above passage of testimony relates to finck telling us that admirals gave orders as to what was and was not to be done autopsy wise . which he said led dr humes to say WHOS IN CHARGE HERE . so there is no doubt that they were ordered not to do certain procedures INCLUDING to dissect the neck and trace the tract of the wound .


Mr Oser :
    You are one of the three autopsy specialists and pathologists at the time, and you saw what you described as an entrance wound in the neck area of the President of the United States who had just been assassinated, and you were only interested in the other wound but not interested in the track through his neck, is that what you are telling me?

Col. Finck :
    I was interested in the track and I had observed the conditions of bruising between the point of entry in the back of the neck and the point of exit at the front of the neck, which is entirely compatible with the bullet path.

Mr Oser :
    But you were told not to go into the area of the neck, is that your testimony?

Col. Finck :
    From what I recall, yes, but I don’t remember by whom.


finck knew damn well who gave the order , it was an admiral as we saw above .

so we now know that neither the pathologists or the warren commission or any commission could or can state as fact that a bullet exited jfks throat . because the throat was never dissected nor the tract of the wound traced , so they had proof of nothing JUST ASSUMPTION . so we now know that the throat exit is also a serious problem within the single bullet theory .

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the next part of this single bullet theory is trajectory . our LN friends say the bullet in effect took a straight line through jfk and went on to hit connally .

well the BACK wound was in fact a tad LOWER than the throat wound , both warren commission  and hsca acknowledged that . so there is no straight line .




the above DRAWING as with all lone nut drawings or animations (call them what you will) has john connallys jump seat atleast 6 inches to the left of jfks seat . dale myrers also tried to pull this trick out of his hat . now lets be clear here , connallys jump seat was slightly inboard (to the left ) of jfks seat , how do we know that ? FROM THE SCHEMATICS of the makers of the limo . and from that we know something else , we know that the jump seat was no more than 2.5 inches inboard or left of jfks seat . so if the trajectory of the single bullet ONLY works if connallys jump seat was 6 inches inboard well then im afraid that that means this part of the single bullet theory also fails .



anyone here STILL think that connallys jump seat was 6 inches inboard (to the left ) of jfks seat ?  . such a notion is bunkum and a lie as the above photo proves . connallys jump seat was no more than 2.5 inches inboard , that is 2.5 inches inside the door .



above just for clarity here is a look at the jump seats from the other side of the limo , it still isnt 6 inches to the left .



please note the bottom center picture , its a dale myers animation from his animation that appears in jfk beyond conspiracy . NOTE HOW FAR TO THE LEFT HE HAS CONNALLY . on top of the atleast 6 inches he has connally to the left he ALSO has the left side of connallys rear end hovering over the left side of the jump seat . you can look at all the film taken of connally in those tragic seconds in that limo and you wont find a single image showing how connally sat on the jump seat . so in my opinion this is a nonsense . one must wonder aloud just how far left our LN friends have to place connally in the hopes of making this trajectory work lol .



above is the nonsense that cbs put out , the greeen blob is connally and the white box around him is the jumpseat . like myers they moved the jump seat atleast 6 inches to the left , they also push connally as can be seen very far to the left of his jump seat . again just ho far left must they push connally before this nonsense trajectory works ? .




above we can see jfk and connally in front of him . photos dont always tell us everything , they tell us a lot , but you have to allow for the photographers angle , height etc . the angles of the people in the photo .

the photographer above was obviously some what central in the vehicle behind , if you look at film etc you will see members of the press sat on back of car their feet resting on the rear seats . so the photographer had to be higher up than jfk and connally , and as i said slightly central where as jfk and connally were to the right . if he was sat properly in the car seat on the right he would have been directly in line behind jfk . so he may not have had much of a view of connally if at all . so angle and height etc is important . and you can see the photographers view seems to be just over the right side of the spare wheel on the rear of the limo .

there is no doubt however that connally was a few inches to jfks left , his jump seat was 2.5 inches inboard (to the left ) . if you look at the myers animation next to the photo above you will see he shows a view point from the left side of the spare wheel at the back of the limo and towards the middle of the spare wheel  . that allows him to show a view where more of connally is seen , that then appears as tho connally was further left than he was .

so the trajectory is clearly also a problem . even if connally is 3 inches to jfks left that still means that if connally must be atleast 6 inches to the left that the trajectory doesnt work because its off by atleast 3 inches . there is more to the trajectory and more to the single bullet theory , i will post more .