JAMES K LAMBERT (A REVIEW OF HIS VIDEO CONSPIRACY THEORISTS LIE )

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this is not a review of a book or article , its a review of the youtube video by james k lambert and a review of the man himself .

here is his youtube video so people can view it and see his side of this particular argument .

MY FIRST POST HERE IS TO OUTLINE THE SORT OF MAN AND MENTALITY WE ARE DEALING WITH .


when i say a review of the man himself i mean from my own FIRST HAND dealings with him and his mentality . now im not here to attack mr lambert or to attack his or any youtube video . mr lambert is entitled to his opinions , he is however not entitled to bend or twist the truth or to lie , irrefutable facts and irrefutable facts alone should be the defining aspect of any argument / claim . that however is not how mr lambert goes about his video making and certainly not how he behaves when talking to people who post on his video thread PEOPLE WHO OPPOSE HIS VIEW .

now just let me say YES there are people on youtube that have little or even no research , they may see a claim or a silly video and some may believe and accept what they see or hear as fact when it may not be fact at all or outright silliness . and im sure we can all agree that no matter where you may live that there are people out there (and i would like to be tactful here ) that i guess could be considered nutty , and as such yes they can and often do have nutty views of our world . i mean no offence to anyone in using the term nutty . so yes if mr lambert were to say THERE ARE SOME CRAZY INDIVIDUALS OUT THERE MAKING VIDEOS OR PSOTING COMMENTS ABOUT JFKS ASSASSINATION THAT JUST ARE NOT TRUE OR ARE COMPLETELY LUDICROUS well then i would agree with him 100% .

however mr lambert has decided to take all this nutty individuals , poorly researched individuals and knowledgeable people who have researched for years and decades and extremely unfairly lumps all of the above in together so that he can then dismiss them all as liars or nuts none of which we should listen to or believe . this sort of behavior is dishonest to state the least .

now i have posted MANY posts on mr lamberts video , upon my last look few REMAINED because he routinely deletes ANY post with facts that dispute him and his video . at last check i think i saw two of my posts however they may also be gone by now .

so if you post and applaud mr lambert and his video you have no worries YOUR COMMENTS WILL REMAIN . if however he makes a claim that you IRREFUTABLY prove wrong / false HE REMOVES/ DELETES THAT PROOF . if you disagree with him he will label you all sorts , from a downright liar to a HOLOCAUST DENIER . other video uploaders of the OSWALD ACTED ALONE variety or LNs (lone nutters ) as they have come to be called have in my experience also decided to use the holocaust denier line all be it not to the extent that mr lambert has used it . you have to understand the mentality , and it is that when they are confronted by knowledgeable people with proof that they know they can not refute (BECAUSE THEY KNOW ITS TRUE ) they have to find a method to escape , dismiss or ignore those facts . ignoring is the more common method used by those who are not video uploaders and dont own the video thread followed by outright dismissal . but when they own the video / video thread its simply very very rare that they will allow and sort of contradiction of it REGARDLESS OF HOW TRUTHFUL OR FACTUAL THAT CONTRADICTION IS . in essence what ever line or story they are pushing MUST BE THE ONLY LINE OR STORY on that video thread . but to be fair now some LN do allow people like me to post openly , but its a small number in my experience .

by the way the term LN or lonenutter is not used to insult or abuse or attack . the term LN is used because these people believe oswald was a LONE NUT hence the term lonenutter (LN ) .

in my few times on mr lamberts thread he has removed the vast majority of my posts , posts that contain any facts proving him wrong , dishonest or indeed lying . to say one has lied is a strong claim i know and had mr lambert NOT DELETED MY COMMENTS i could prove in a heart beat that he has lied . there may be some remaining posts of mine there that prove his lies I SHALL CHECK . in the mean time james posted a denial that HE NEVER DELETED ANY POSTS , he then modified that untrue statement to state that HE ONLY DELETES PROFANE ABUSIVE POSTS , but then that is also untrue .



" I can say that I have removed many profanity laden, name calling posts, and rambling nonsense. I have even shut down all the comments on previous videos for similar reasons, which is hardly an uncommon practice on YouTube and elsewhere. What I have never done, is delete facts that prove me wrong." james k lambert

the above is a lie AS MY MANY DELETED POSTS ON HIS THREAD PROVE , and my posts are all over youtube for people to view , they may contain a little humor and sarcasm but never abuse AND ANY CLAIMS I POST I CAN AND DO SUPPORT and any facts i post i can and do provide proof for . so anyone can go and see any of my posts and will know immediately that i am not abusive EVEN WHEN BEING ABUSED MY SELF and i dont post profanity as a rule and if i did which is very very rare its in quoting another person and even then i edit the swear word such as this example p-ss , i apologise if anyone is offended by my using that word / example . so any claim by james that he removed my posts because i was profane abusive IS PATENTLY FALSE .

james next mentions name calling , well again as a rule i try not to go down that route except for when i say LN and thats not ever used as a derogatory term as explained above . but then if i post that james is an LN never meaning any offence  and he posts falsely labelng and calling me a conspiracy liar and holocaust denier with the intent to smear me WHO THEN IS THE ONE IN THE WRONG ? its obvious its james .

next james says RAMBLING NONSENSE , so in essence that is in theory and in fact what ever HE terms rambling or nonsense . in practice it means that he will delete ANYTHING no matter how factual for no other reasons than he doesnt like it , disagrees with it , or it contradicts his video and his claims . one simply cant write a detailed response to for example james 30 minute video in 30 words or less ITS IMPOSSIBLE . so i posted several detailed and yes a bit long responses and proven and provable refutations of claims he made in his video . i offered to support any AND ALL CLAIMS i made . he deemed all these posts rambling nonsense and deleted them .

so now james first denied that he deleted ANY COMMENTS , he was then forced to admit that he deleted SOME . would he delete comments with facts simply because he deems them NONSENSE ? well he is LN so if i dispute his opinions he will say im talking nonsense THUS THAT QUALIFIES MY POSTS  FOR REMOVAL .

"If you want to keep on rambling, feel free, but there will come a point where I will get sick of your nonsense and simply delete it I am confident that most people will find that a perfectly reasonable thing to do." james k lambert

the answer to my above question is YES .


"AND THERE YOU HAVE IT READERS , james THREAT TO REMOVE ALL THE FACTS I HAVE PROVIDED , AND WHICH I HAVE VOLUNTEERED TO SUPPORT . but lets face it HE DID IT BEFORE as i have truthfully claimed and which james DENIED DOING , stating that he only removes POSTS THAT ARE PROFANE AND OR ABUSIVE neither of which apply in any way to my posts . WELL NOW WE KNOW AND CAN SEE FROM HIS OWN HAND AND HIS OWN ADMISSION JUST ABOVE THAT HE HAS NO PROBLEM REMOVING COMMENTS CONTAINING FACTS THAT HE HAS FAILED TO REFUTE .

off you go james DELETE ALL THE FACTS I POSTED THAT YOU DONT CARE FOR ."fobrien1

would james threaten not only to delete my factual comments but also to remove me / block me from his video ? 

"How about this: No more posting your nonsense here. I'm already bored with it and I will not allow you to dominate this space with your delusions." james k lambert

the answer is absolutely YES . also please not his use of the word DELUSIONS . he says oswald acted alone and thats fine , thats his opinion and he is entitled to it , he has made a video to that end . he also says that ALL conspiracy theorists lie , he deems me conspiracy theorist and thus by default a liar AND DELUSIONAL and by default that is the only excuse he needs to remove / delete posts or remove / block the poster  . i have no issue with james expressing opinions be they right or wrong but he simply refuses to allow me and others the same right . well in fact i didnt post my opinion on his video thread i posted facts , and while he exercised his right to say that I AM A LIAR AND A HOLOCAUST DENIER he denied me my right (via deleting my posts ) to rebut those false claims that he made .

a poster on his youtube video posted

"I would love to hear you debate someone like Jim Dieugenio, Know him?"jfkvan1963


"Yes, he is a terminal fool, willfully ignorant or exploiting other people's willful ignorance, take your pick. The problem with "debating" people who throw crap at the wall for a living is that it's much easier for them to make a mess than it is for advocates of the truth to clean things up. As the old saying goes, "A lie can get halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on." If I did debate such a man I wouldn't play into his games. I would make it clear that he was no better than a Holocaust denier and deserving of no more respect than I would give to a Holocaust denier. Because the entire CTer worldview is nonsense" james k lambert

as you can see james has decided that no matter who he is asked about AS LONG AS THEY HAVE VIEWS CONTRARY TO HIM and regardless of how knowledgeable and well researched they are that he will automatically without fail and default label them AS FOOLS , WILLFULLY IGNORANT , LIARS AND HIS OLD RELIABLE AND FAVORITE A HOLOCAUST DENIER . this is before he even considers a debate of the facts with them , and in actual fact ive seen with my own eyes that he refuses any and all debates on his video by people like me . now dont get me wrong if he is being abused then he has a right to remove the abusive person and the abuse they posted ,  i have no problem with that . but he takes the approach by default that we are all holocaust denying lying nuts so we warrant no debate from him .

but here is the question IF WHAT HE CLAIMS IS FACTUAL AND IRREFUTABLY PROVEN well then why would he be afraid to discuss it with someone like me ? . if i post a fact and the truth i have nothing to fear from lies , i dont claim to be an expert or to know every minute detail of this case but i know that my years of research and my honesty gives me a good capability to debate this case and to admit if i am wrong . that then should speak volumes for why james is so reluctant to debate .

have a look at the comments under his video , he has deleted so much that in main part all you see are the posts that thank him or applaud him , a few posts remain from me and others but not a lot .


before i move on james k lambert posted an invite TO ME here it is

"I am pointing out the facts of history, not my personal opinion, and, in the case above, I am pointing out the fact that Vern Pascal gave NOTHING but opinion. If you think you can refuse the actual facts I have given, in this video, in my feature film, in my writings, and/or in my podcast, then do so."


when i did as he asked WHICH HE THOUGHT I WOULD NEVER DO  he removed most of my comments , not all but most .

so lets take james up on his invite THE DIFFERENCE BEING THAT HE CANT REMOVE WHAT I POST HERE .

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james k lambert titles his video CONSPIRACY THEORISTS LIE , he adds to that the wearing of a tee shirt in his video with the same title . this is to gull and lull his viewers , if what he presented in his video was 100% factual he wouldnt need such theatrics .


here is what james typed under his video

Published on Oct 24, 2013

"More than anyone else, Oliver Stone has created the false impression that JFK was murdered by a conspiracy, carried out by elements of the U.S. Government and covered up for 50 years now. It would take many, many hours to go through all the lies and misrepresentations in Stone's film, but this is a rebuttal to some of the biggest and most popular falsehoods that he and other conspiracists love to present as facts.

I had turned off the comments here because:

1) Because I am sick of addressing the same things over and over again; e.g. my critics claim that Stone's work is a dramatization and not representative of the "facts" of the conspiracy. This is BS, because Stone hired leading "researchers" (aka liars) as consultants for his film and nothing I address in this video are items he personally made up for dramatic purposes. These are the "facts" of the conspiracy, as represented in many books, documentaries, and lectures; all of which lie!

2) I don't have the time to respond to ever lie out there, and don't care to. I am showing a clear pattern of lies (more can be found in the book I am working on, http://nomagicbullets.org/1-history-i...) and at some point you need to give up on addressing each new lie in that pattern.

3) I am sick of dealing with people who spit on the grave of Earl Warren, Robert Kennedy, President Johnson, and the entire U.S. Government from the 1960s until today, then call themselves patriots. These people are incredibly insulting to America and everything that President Kennedy believed in, but when I call them on their crap and tell them they do not deserve any respect, they start attacking me personally, with F-bombs and childish insults.

I was asked by a viewer to open up the comment section again and decided it was worth a try." james k lambert


so in point number 1 he says and i quote " Stone hired leading "researchers" (aka liars) as consultants for his film" , as you can see ANYONE AND I DO MEAN ANYONE that disputes james view or disputes the official version of events is A LIAR . have you ever seen such idiotic and nonsensical logic ? .


"These are the "facts" of the conspiracy, as represented in many books, documentaries, and lectures; all of which lie!" james k lambert

there again we see the default logic "ALL OF WHICH LIE" , james give no credence to any fact that any conspiracy researchers provide he dismisses them all as LIARS . thats a real thorough method of research wouldnt you agree ? .

it should be noted that this guy not has a video he says he has a book and is looking for money . i am not looking for one red cent , all i want is to get accurate as is humanly possible facts out there so that people will have the truth no matter what it is .

"I am sick of dealing with people who spit on the grave of Earl Warren, Robert Kennedy, President Johnson, and the entire U.S. Government from the 1960s until today" james k lambert

so when james has facts posted on his thread that contradict him and his video and he DELETES them rather than to allow his viewers to see and check those facts for himself isnt that spitting on jfks memory ? .

A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people. John F. Kennedy

when james removes / deletes facts he goes against that which jfk believed deeply in . james is afraid to let people viewing his video thread to view and judge what is or is not a fact in a free and open market , he has decided that they will ONLY see what he decides to tell them are facts . this is not acceptable .


james video starts and his complaints are about oliver stones movie jfk . for record and this information is available online oliver stone has from the stat said the movie is his counter myth to what he sees as the warren commission myth . or in other words stone is saying if the warren commission can come up with their own version of events why cant he ? . he has NEVER not even once stated that his movie is 100% factual . and the movie is in large part dramatized but people like james k lambert wont mention that when they attack him and his movies . and names changed etc , and some characters while not fictional as such are actually a combination of characters one such character is willy o keefe .


so on we go . coming up to the one minute mark james labels MOST EVERYTHING in the movie as a pack of lies , something that is false and easily proven so , however to detail all true parts of a 3 hour plus movie would take a long time . far to long to go into teh sort of detail i would like .

there are no magic bullets guys lol , and most people in the world know that , bullets can do some strange things if they ricochet for sure , but none of them magic . james k lambert would have people believe that people like my self are claiming that there really was a magic bullet lol lol . as i pointed out to james when we say the magic bullet it is a term of ridicule based on what we are told that it did . so no lol there are no magic bullets nor do we claim there are lol .


at 2 minutes 35 seconds of the video james says that all most everything in the clip he had just shown is a lie , but then that is his default argument as we know lol .

at 3.06 seconds in james says the jump seat was HALF A FOOT IN (or 6 inches inboard or to the left of jfk ) dale myers also made this false claim . the schematics of the limo by the limo makers show that the jump seat was 2.5 INCHES INBOARD not the half foot you falsely claim

" Connally’s jumpseat, however, was fixed to a track in the floor of the

> limousine, the outside edge of the jumpseat cushion measured at 2.5

> inches from the inside door panel, according to body drafts produced

> by Hess & Eisenhardt Company." dale myers

now myers does stick to his 6 inches inboard but the facts here is that he acknowledges that the gap between jump seat and door was ONLY 2.5 inches .








"The Governor was in a pulldown jumpseat, about a half a foot in, and lower than the President." This is a true statement" james k lambert

anyone still think that connallys jump seat was 6 inches inboard OR TO THE LEFT of the edge of jfks seat behind ? .



a few seconds later james shows a drawing showing connallys rear end HOVERING about a further 6 inches more over the left side of the jump seat , again this comes from a myers animation . tell me how can james and mr myers DECIDE UPON THIS ? i mean was there an over head camera looking down into the limo that recorded connally seated this way ? did one of the photographers along elm take a photo pointing down at connallys rear end showing it dangling a bout 6 inches over the left edge of the jump seat ? . IN BOTH CASES THE ANSWER I KNOW FOR CERTAIN IS NO , so how can  one possibly claim as fact SOMETHING THEY CANT EVEN SEE ? .

by the way for the sake of accuracy WHEN JFK FIRST REACTED TO BEING HIT , throwing his arms up about chin height and balling his fists CONNALLY WAS SAT LOOKING STRAIGHT AHEAD and not turned as the drawing james shows falsely depicts , this is proven in the zapruder film .


at 4.11 in the video shows the tumbling bullet drawing from lattimers book later re used by posner and i believe bugliosi also , this is false in almost all respects . firstly it has the bullet enter jfks rear ON THE RIGHT OF HIS NECK when autopsy photos and jfks jacket and shirt prove the bullet entered several inches lower ON JFKS BACK and a tad to left just right of the spine .



the above photo is  from the celebrity morgue site .

jfks head is clearly leaning back hence the thick wrinkles on the back of the neck . there are two pathologists holding the ruler , not the right hand and then a left hand in that order meaning that two men are holding the ruler . the bullet hole is supposedly the mark near the top right of the ruler , that is however larger than a 6.5 millimeter bullet . if you look below that mark you will see another mark and that mark is positioned in between the fingers on the ruler OF BOTH HANDS . and is more in line with the size of wound one would expect to see . it also has an abrasion collar , which very simply means a sort of circular pushing of the skin at the edge of the wound OUTWARD .

here are pictures of jfks shirt and jacket showing the bullet hole (photo from james fetzers site )



THE ABOVE PHOTOS PROVE THAT JFK HAD NO ENTRY WOUND ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HIS NECK , AND THAT IT WAS SEVERAL INCHES LOWER DOWN ON HIS BACK . so any presentation by james or anyone else that starts with a bullet entering the right side of jfks neck IS NOT ONLY WRONG BUT FALSE unless the person making the presentation is very poorly informed . one simply cant be well informed and make such a claim as fact or in error ITS IMPOSSIBLE . and in such cases my opinion is that only leaves attempt at deceit .

the bullet seen exiting jfks throat is tumbling , which by default would have to make a larger exit wound than had the bullet exited nose first and virtually straight , none of the parkland staff saw an enlarged exit wound on the throat , in fact dr perry saw a small wound . the bullet shown striking connallys back hits the back lengthwise as opposed to nose first , again this is lattimers theory and is false . lattimer claimed falsely that connally had a 3cm long wound on his back (3cm is about 1 inch ) and 3cm just by coincidence just happens to be roughly the length of a carcano bullet . in fact dr shaw who operated on connally not only noted in his notes on the day but several times after that in testimony that connallys wound was just 1.5cm long HALF THE LENGTH THAT LATTIMER AND THE DRAWING IN JAMES VIDEO SHOWS . why doesnt james video note dr shaws notes and testimony ? surely james research involved reading his testimony given that james video above involves the single bullet theory and connally ? .

“His careful diagram of the wound of entry (which he revised and initialed) showed it to be elongated in its vertical (not horizontal) axis and to be at least 3 cm in length.”(Kennedy and Lincoln, Harcourt Brace Jovanovich, 1980)

Mr. Specter.  Is the size and dimension of the hole accurate on scale, or would you care to make any adjustment or modification in that characterization by picture?

Dr. Shaw.  As the wound entry is marked on this figure, I would say that the scale is larger than the actual wound or the actual depicting of the wound should be.  As I described it, it was approximately  a centimeter and a half in length.

so as we can see connallys back wound WAS NOT 3cm (one inch) long IT WAS ONLY 1.5cm long . so where did lattimer pull 3cm from ? well its simple shaw operated on connally ENLARGING the 1.5cm wound to 3cm so that he could clean the wound . so connally did indeed have a 3cm long scar POST ENLARGEMENT OF THE WOUND , but prior to the wound being enlarged it was as is proven by dr shaw only 1.5cm long . why was it important for lattimer to have a 3cm long wound ? well he has a tumbling bullet scenario that involves the bullet hitting connally LENGTHWISE not nose first , a carcano bullet just happens to be YOU GUESSED IT just about 3cm long . so if people have a 3cm long wound and a 3cm long bullet and some inaccurate info in between they put 2+2 together and make about 10 .

thus far im just 4 minutes and 20 seconds into james video , not even a quarter of the way through .


at 5 minutes in james  mentiona a straight shot . well even if the angle from window , through jfk and then through all connallys wounds were all in a straight line there is still a very serious problem . that problem is that the trajectory james  claims and believes to be accurate starts with a provable lie . the warren commission , specter , bugliosi , myers , lattimer , posner , and just about every mainstream tv channel documentary including pbs has the bullet entering the right of jfks neck WHERE IT PROVABLY NEVER ENTERED . autopsy photos , jfks jacket and shirt have a hole several inches lower and a bit to left all corresponding to each other THAT IS IRREFUTABLE and removes , disproves and eliminates the right of the neck entry lie AS IVE PROVEN ABOVE  . so any claims james may make in his video , and diagrams or drawings or video images he may show professing a right of the neck entry are false and wrong and provably AND PROVEN so . on james video i said to him based on the above facts that " if you are honest and care about accuracy and truth you will edit your video and remove all such references from it " HE HAS NOT EDITED HIS VIDEO .

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at about 5 minutes 20 seconds james mention LIES , MAKING UP STUFF THAT ISNT THERE , so i sure james wouldnt want to lie and have a wound on the right of jfks neck when it was in fact NEVER ON THE NECK but several inches lower down on the back just right of the spine .  im sure then that james would want to correct his video and REMOVE all references , mentions or depictions of a wound on the right of the neck .

THUS FAR HE HAS NOT .


at 7 minutes 53 seconds james speaks about a forward movement of jfk , and he sayz along the lines of IF YOU LOOK YOU WILL SEE IT . well as this movement is invisible to the human eye in real time that would not be possible . so small is the movement within the film that it occurs in just 2 to 3 frames . to put that in perspective , mr zapruders film filmed at roughly 18 frames per second , so 9 frames is half a second , 4.5 frames is a quarter of a second , making 2 seconds roughly one eight of a second long . so the individual frames have to be enlarged and moved very slowly to even be able to see this movement . but yes there is a movement . lone nut advocates state that it was a 3 inch forward movement based on inaccurate and old information from 1967 and also you may be interested to know that it was INFORMATION THAT COMES FROM ONE JOSIAH THOMPSON A MAN WHOM JAMES WOULD CALL A CONSPIRACY THEORIST and i guess thus a liar by simple virtue of being classed as a conspiracy theorist . so fast forward 40 years or more and mr thompson decides he would like to review hi 1967 work with modern technology and see if it stands up , all of us should be willing to do that , lone nut advocates rarely if ever are willing to even admit THEY COULD BE WRONG let alone honestly review that which COULD prove them wrong . well thompson did review his 1967 work and then found that he had been in error and he went public and admitted such . in 1967 no allowance was made for the obvious blurring in the film from mr zapruders hands moving the camera . in 67 thompson took a point behind , in front and above jfk and measured movements within those parameters . and he got roughly a 3 inch forward movement . however in reviewing his work in recent years with new technology he spotted the blurring and then allowed for the blurring and in doing so the forward movement while still there became smaller and only some 1 to 2 inches .it should not be a surprise that NO lone nut advocate accepts thompsons work and his modern review of his work despite them accepting his 1967 work hands down .

so could anything besides a bullet have caused this 1 or 3 inch inch forward movement ? . yes a bullet strike is a possibility and a valid one so we must accept that however could any other factors present in the limo at the time have caused that movement ? . should not honest research examine all factors ? even if just to rule them out ? . lone nut advocates accept no other factors because the lonenut scenario REQUIRES that a bullet and ONLY a bullet be the cause , they simply cant have another factor causing the movement because they then lose their bullet THAT IS THE LOGIC . i dont care if i lose all bullets as long as i have accuracy and honesty . but anyway what other factors are there ? . well we know as fact that the limo driver greer stepped on the brakes multiple times . now the limo was not traveling that fast maybe 10mph as it turned and went down elm but slower at the point of the head shot as greer was stepping on the brakes . all 4 motorcycle officers behind jfk confirmed on tape that the limo was moving very slow , one described it as a sort of rolling stop that lasted a few seconds only untill greer stepped on the gas . and film shows the limo brake lights ON .

at that speed all occupants in the limo would not be jolted forward by greer stepping on the brakes , but jfk was seriously wounded and already leaning quite a bit forward and leftward , and also not as in control of his body as the other limo occupants ( connally aside for obvious reasons) so its not impossible that a few sudden steps on the brake by greer could cause jfk to move slightly forward . also jackie is clearly holding jfk with both hands , she was sat to his right facing forward , but by this time she had changed her position and she was all most looking straight at him WITH BOTH HANDS ON HIM trying to ascertain what was wrong . so its not impossible that jackie in placing her hands on jfk to see what was wrong with him could have caused the small movement . im not claiming the two above factors are proven fact THEY ARE NOT  but they are factors that one needs to consider , because the bullet factor is clearly not the only factor . and we cant simply take the bits and pieces (factors and facts ) that we like because they tend to help our arguments and ignore all those that might contradict them .



at about 8 minutes 20 seconds in the video james  mentions the spray from the head explosion ALL going forward and upward , he even diagrams that in the video with little arrows . however there is a problem . blood and debris landed everywhere in the limo , forwards , left and right , and most certainly a large amount covered the rear of the limo . jackie retrieved a piece of jfks head from the rear of the limo and gave it to a doctor at parkland . lone nut advocates say FALSELY that jackie saw clint hill and went to help him (or simply that she tried to escape and that he pushed her back in ) both are FALSE . if you view close up versions of the film you will clearly see jackie go to the right rear of the limo , grab something and then make her way backards back into the limo . all this while hill is trying hard to mount the left rear of the limo and stay on it , jackie never even looks his way when she was retrieving the piece of jfks head . yes hill did motion to get her back in the limo but that has no bearing on jackies movements .

in addition ALL 4 MOTORCYCLE OFFICERS BEHIND JFKS LIMO and their bikes were splattered to different degrees by blood and debris , bobby hargis who was inside rear left was splattered the most and so hard that he momentarily and wrongly thought he too had been shot . a further addition to this is that charles brehm was standing on the south side of elm roughly somewhat opposite the stemmons sign , not perfectly opposite but in that area . he was standing there at the point of the head shot , the head shot took place after the limo had passed mr zapruder and after it had just passed the newmans , and a bit before the knoll steps , the steps and the men on them can be seen in the mormon photo . i usually say the distance (and its conservative ) between brehm and jfk at the point of the head shot was ATLEAST 30 feet . brehm is on film stating that he watched a piece of jfks head fly rearwards and leftwards and land by the curb where he was standing , a distance of atleast 30 feet away from jfk TO JFKS LEFT REAR . this when james in his video tells people that all debris ONLY went forward and upward . thus far i see no mention of the above facts about mr brehm in the video but maybe james  mentions it at some point , LETS SEE .

here is mr brehm on film saying what i posted just above

at around the 10 minute mark james says the parkland staff did not examine him THEY WERE TRYING TO SAVE HIS LIFE . well there is a little truth there . but lets first outline the lone nut advocate opinion regarding the parkland and many of the bethesda staff , which is that they say THEY WERE WRONG OR THAT SOME SIMPLY LIED SUCH AS DR CRENSHAW . in fact lone advocates claim that crenshaw WAS NEVER EVER EVEN IN THE ER well that is very easily and provably false , he was without any doubt in the ER which lone nut advocates would know if they read any testimonies . but crenshaw is not really the topic here . so why must ALL parkland staff and including CORROBORATING bethesda staff all be wrong , mistaken or lying ? well because if they be correct , honest and truthful the lone nut scenario flys out the window , the lone nut scenario is fixed in place they cant allow anything that displaces any area of it . so james says the parkland staff never examined jfk , they were trying to save his life . that is part true atleast , they were and did try very valiantly probably none more so than perry to save the mortally wounded president . ALL were hereos and should have been treated as such , instead some are attacked and labeled liars THIS DESPITE THE FACT that they maintained always the same version of events while the parkland staff WHO LONE NUT ADVOCATES CITE as being trustworthy and reliable did 360 degree u turns claiming things very different later to what they originally claimed .

in lone nut advocate world there appears to be a different reality to the one we live in and in which jfk was assassinated . in lone nut advocate world for example jfks neck had no capability to TURN LEFT OR RIGHT OR TILT UP AND DOWN . and in lone nut advocate world only HANDS ON examinations apply , if a neurosurgeon (head / brain surgeon ) VISUALLY examines jfks head from just inches away but does not lay on the hands because the damage was so great THAT in lone nut advocate world does not equate to AN EXAMINATION .also in lone nut advocate world a neurosurgeon CANT BE RELIED UPON TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE ON HIS OWN WHAT PART OF A MANS HEAD HE IS LOOKNG AT . a lot of what doctors do is visual , they LOOK at multiple wounds and assess and treat them based on seriousness of injury . for example if a person was bleeding profusely from a severed artery in the leg but also had a minor enough gash on the head they would naturally assess the situation visually and conclude that the blood loss took priority .

doctors cant see through skulls so  they use their eyes to examine xrays . dr kemp clark (neurosurgeon ) did in fact examine jfks head visually , but also he was seen and it was reported by another member of staff (which clark has NEVER disputed ) that clark lifted the hair around and near the wound to look as close as he could at it .

Dr. William Kemp Clark, neurological Surgeon: "I then examined the wound in the back of the President's head. This was a large, gaping wound in the right posterior part, with cerebral and cerebellar tissue being damaged and exposed."

dr mclellend stood by jfks head for several minutes , he was just inches away and he testified that

Dr. MCCLELLAND. As I took the position at the head of the table that I have already described, to help out with the tracheotomy, I was in such a position that I could very closely examine the head wound, and I noted that the right posterior portion of the skull had been extremely blasted. It had been shattered, apparently, by the force of the shot so that the parietal bone was protruded up through the scalp and seemed to be fractured almost along its right posterior half, as well as some of the occipital bone being fractured in its lateral haft, and this sprung open the bones that I mentioned in such a way that you could actually look down into the skull cavity itself and see that probably a third or so, at least, of the brain tissue, posterior cerebral tissue and some of the cerebellar tissue had been blasted out.

so why is james saying IN HIS VIDEO that NO parkland staff examined jfks wounds when testimony proves that they did ? .



10 minutes 40 seconds james tries to play down the removal of the coffin from parkland . now granted there was some discussion going on behind the scenes , but dr rose was the man entitled to legally perform the autopsy under state law , in fact it was his legal duty . he tried to perform that duty and was denied ultimately by use and threat of force . however he did attempt discussion on this matter , and he was told in no uncertain terms that he was not performing an autopsy that the body was being taken back to washington . there was pushing and shoving and cursing and threats issued , guns pulled and parkland staff were informed GET OUT OF THE WAY OR WE WILL RUN YOU OVER , and all done in front of jackie . this is documented .

so any attempt to play this down by james  , to play down the manner in which the secret service and the us government acted that day is silly . does the actions of the secret service indicate something devious ? not necessarily no , however we cant simply play it down or brush it away either . so what james dismisses as ridiculous is in fact the complete opposite and indeed a lot more factual than he very clearly wants to admit . and then james says EARL ROSE WAS A JOKE lol . he was COMPELLED by texas state law to undertake certain actions , actions in which he was LEGALLY OBLIGED to perform a proper medical legal autopsy on the murder victim , in this case jfk . and because the secret service decided they were not going to allow that DR ROSE IS THEN LABELED A JOKE ? . had the secret service been half as diligent as rose was and not drank heavily into the wee hours perhaps jfk might have stood a chance that day . rose was not saying JUST ANOTHER STIFF TO ME , he was carrying out his legal duty according to state law , and he wasnt the one threatening people with violence , threatening to run anyone over or pulling a gun on anyone .

there were indeed discussions and eventually it was agreed that rose would stand aside and he did . the sad part is that he have been allowed to perform the autopsy that we may now 54 years later not be faced with so much uncertainty about the wounds . i do also fully understand that jackie would want to take her husbands body and leave ,  get that completely , but that does not entitle the kennedys to discard the law , if a memory of my family was tragically killed in another state i would have to abide by the laws of he land and of that state and i would have no choice .



12 minutes 41 seconds in and james having spent the previous 12 minutes and 41 seconds ATTACKING A MOVIE then tells us that we should believe another movie . can you imagine that ? lets not discuss facts by supplying irrefutable proof NO lets attack one movie while citing another , and that in lone nut advocate world one presumes equates to proof that all conspiracy theorists are liars . a claim which by the way jamesl makes NOT ON THE BASIS OF INDIVIDUAL COMMENTS BY INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE but on pauls belief that the sole basis for every so called conspiracy theorist research is a movie . yes some so called conspiracy theorists post nonsense that they got from a video or a movie WITHOUT BENEFIT OF PROPER RESEARCH ON THEIR PART . and believe me plenty of lone nut advocates are also as poorly researched .

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at 13 minutes plus of the video james shows a clip of the autopsy and in effect says IN REALITY LITTLE IF ANY OF WHAT WAS SHOWN HAPPENED  . that is false . we have testimony from witnesses at the autopsy including dr finck who testified that generals and admirals controlled the autopsy . when asked in testimony in essence why he didnt ignore these orders and perform the autopsy as he saw fit and as REQUIRED BY LAW he stated in affect that WHEN YOU ARE IN THE MILITARY AND GENERALS AND ADMIRALS GIVE YOU ORDERS YOU FOLLOW THEM . and they did .

Q: Was Dr. Humes running the show?

A: Well, I heard Dr. Humes stating that -- he said, "Who is in charge here?" and I heard an Army General, I don't remember his name, stating, I am." You must understand that in those circumstances, there were law enforcement officers, military people with various ranks, and you have to co-ordinate the operation according to directions.

Q: But you were one of the three qualified pathologists standing at that autopsy table, were you not, Doctor?

A: Yes, I am.

Q: Was this Army General a qualified pathologist?

A: No.

Q: Was he a doctor?

A: No, not to my knowledge.

Q: Can you give me his name, Colonel?

A: No, I can't. I don't remember.


Q: How many other military personnel were present at the autopsy in the autopsy room?

A: That autopsy room was quite crowded. It is a small autopsy room, and when you are called in circumstances like that to look at the wound of the President of the United States who is dead, you don't look around too much to ask people for their names and take notes on who they are and how many there are. I did not do so. The room was crowded with military and civilian personnel and federal agents, Secret Service agents, FBI agents, for part of the autopsy, but I cannot give you a precise breakdown as regards the attendance of the people in that autopsy room at Bethesda Naval Hospital.

Q: Colonel, did you feel that you had to take orders from this Army General that was there directing the autopsy?

A: No, because there were others, there were Admirals.

Q: There were Admirals?

A: Oh, yes, there were Admirals, and when you are a Lieutenant Colonel in the Army you just follow orders, and at the end of the autopsy we were specifically told -- as I recall it, it was by Admiral Kinney, the Surgeon General of the Navy -- this is sub- ject to verification -- we were specifically told not to discuss the case.


in fact all betheda staff associated in any way with the autopsy were ordered NOT TO SPEAK A WORD ABOUT WHAT THE SAW under threat of court martial . this threat existed untill 1978/79 when the hsca allowed the witnesses to speak without fear of court martial . paul o connor is on film stating that when humes tried to perform certain procedures and was stopped that humes would get very agitated and tense up .



at about 14 minutes 11 james says THIS WAS THE POINT THAT THEY "KNEW " THERE WAS NO BULLET IN THE BODY . james is talking about the throat wound . so lets consider this a moment . humes probes the back wound with his little finger and also a surgical probe , he finds that it goes in only 1 to 2  inches , this was recorded by the fbi who were there . the end of the BACK wound could be felt just some 2 inches in , and it was recorded by the fbi at autopsy that NO EXIT POINT WAS FOUND .

lets buttress that further by adding the FACT that they opened jfks chest , emptied it of its organs and then sat jfk up . again humes probed the back with a surgical probe pushing the probe from the rear to the front while another man looked into the chest cavity waiting for the probe to appear IT NEVER DID . they even lifted jfks arm to simulate waving . when humes probed the BACK wound all that was ever seen from the front inside the chest cavity was THE PROBE PROBE PRESSING AGAINST THE FLESH from the rear THE PROBE NEVER EMERGED . again it was stated and recorded by the fbi that NO EXIT POINT WAS FOUND .

lets buttress that further with the additional FACT that the throat WAS NEVER DISSECTED and that THE TRACT OF THE THROAT WOUND WAS NEVER (UNDER ORDERS ) TRACED . one rarely finds that which they never seek . WITH ALL OF THE ABOVE IN MIND james is trying to say THEY KNEW THERE WAS NO BULLET IN THERE and also its stated as fact in affect that ITS PROVEN THAT A BULLET ENTERED THE REAR AND EXITED THE FRONT when the facts above show that at best in this case james claims are AT BEST assumption  . now james will probably try to say that IF THE BULLET DIDNT GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH WHERE DID IT GO , well james as the autopsy was sadly VERY INADEQUATE to say the least and as you HAVE YET TO PROVE that a bullet DID pass through jfk well then i would say its a bit rich to ask me where the bullet went when james himself CANT PROVE it went the way he claims . i would also say that a lack of a bullet DOES NOT NEGATE THE ABOVE FACTS I MENTIONED . as even the pathologists postulated that the bullet being shallow could have fallen out of jfks back , and after all is that not exactly what LONE NUT ADVOCATES state that ce399 did ? they say it fell out of connallys leg .


at about 15 minutes in james moves on to vietnam . well while it may relate to motive it is in no way related to the assassination evidence and the events that day even if james thinks it is . however jfk had signed an NSAM (national security action memorandum ) bringing back the first 1000 so called advisors from vietnam by christmas 1963 and that ALL would be out by late the following year (if memory serves me ) a small amount had returned home just before the assassination . jfk also said ITS THEIR WAR its up to them to win it or lose it . the johnson administration reversed jfks NSAM . james and others can make of those FACTS what they will .



at about 17 minutes in james shows another clip showing johnson / hoover etc etc , and i guess james decides to let people believe that the discussion in that clip was a discussion about killing jfk , if you watch it you will see it wasnt . secondly james as with all lone nut advocates has a problem understanding the meanings of conspiracy to murder and cover up . its a well known lone nut advocate problem with as yet it seems no known cure , no amount of logic and intelligent explanation comes even close to helping them understand . james infers based in part on the above mentioned clip that so called conspiracy theorists believe that a massive list of people MANY THOUSANDS IN FACT from cia / fbi / dallas police / secret service / the military and many thousands in between (thats apparently everyone in those organistions from janitors up lol ) WERE INVOLVED IN A CONSPIRACY TO MURDER JFK . this is a nonsense and in FACT a nonsense invented by lone nut advocates like james . no intelligent well researched person believes what he claims . secondly he tries to assert that so called conspiracy theorists believe that all these conspiracists would be dumb enough to come up with a plan TO BLATANTLY SHOOT JFK FROM IN FRONT WHILE THEN SAYING ALL SHOTS CAME FROM THE REAR . again no intelligent and well researched person has ever asserted such a thing , this is pure lone nut advocate invention AT ITS SILLIEST .



at about 18 minutes in james mentions johnson , and he states in essence that stone wanted his viewers to have a certain unfavorable view of johnson . clearly he thinks stone was wrong to try to portray johnson the way he did . but then james becomes guilty of the very thing he attacked stone for . james tries to portray a saddened dismayed johnson AND HE DISPLAYS A PICTURE OF JOHNSON WITH HIS HEAD DOWN . im wondering james do you have the proper context for that picture ? what time and date did it occur ? and what was happening and in what context ? . i mean for all your viewers know from viewing the picture he could just have had a hard long day and been tired , or as we know he wasnt well in the last years of his life so maybe he was feeling under the weather ? . what my point is IS NOT what any particular picture COULD BE DEPICTED AS but trying to find the actual correct context and background of the picture . i think in using the picture as you did in a hope to claim the high ground well you came off looking not much different to how you portrayed stone . johnson didnt run for re election one assumes based on the known fact that he was in serious ill health . and as it turned out he wouldnt have lived through another term . so i think we should call it as it is not what you would like it to be .



lastly here in my review i intentionally excluded references to the movie that james goes out of his way to attack , and which he uses as a weapon to attack people like me . you see I KNOW the movie is a movie , a good amount of which is DRAMATIZED . i also know that stone said from the start that this movie is his COUNTER MYTH to what he calls the warren commission myth . in other words the commission came up with a version of events and he said well if they can do it so can i . the difference being that stone NEVER EVER CLAIMED THAT HIS MYTH /VERSION WAS 100% TRUE .

now i did as james invited and what he  clearly thought no one could do or would dare do ,  i refuted james video IN DETAIL and in full . not once above did i give any theories conspiracy or otherwise , and i gave plenty of FACTS and pictures etc . so james claims that ALL so called conspiracy theorists lie THAT INCLUDES ME  . so here is your golden opportunity james WHY DONT YOU get some courage and PROVIDE IRREFUTABLE PROOF DISPROVING WHAT I POSTED HERE , prove what i claim is wrong james . and also please provide EVEN ONE EXAMPLE from my comments here in which you can prove irrefutably THAT I AM A LIAR . if as you claim all so called conspiracy theorists LIE well then as you clearly include me in that well then surely you should have no difficulty at all in proving i am a liar atleast one time in the above posts .

just to go back to an important point i raised above HERE IT IS

at about 5 minutes 20 seconds james mention LIES , MAKING UP STUFF THAT ISNT THERE , so i sure james wouldnt want to lie and have a wound on the right of jfks neck when it was in fact NEVER ON THE NECK but several inches lower down on the back just right of the spine .  im sure then that james would want to correct his video and REMOVE all references , mentions or depictions of a wound on the right of the neck .

THUS FAR HE HAS NOT .


it needs noting that despite my proving him and his video wrong ON HIS YOUTUBE VIDEO THREAD he has not CORRECTED HIS VIDEO .

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james has a second video on youtube , it should be of no great surprise that he has disabled comments on that . oh for the record my review of his video has been re posted on his original video thread and he has made no effort at all to reply to it . its about 4 comments in detail and he has NOTHING TO SAY apparently . i also invited him to prove his claim THAT I AM A LIAR by providing a single claim by me which he says is a lie and of course his proof that it is a lie . again its no surprise that he hasnt even attempted this .

it should be no surprise that this video contains the usual babble from james HE EVEN GETS IN ANOTHER LINE ABOUT HOLOCAUST DENIERS . there is no doubt there are lunatics out there that believe in nonsense but james is trying to use that TO LIE TO HIS VIEWERS , he is KNOWINGLY falsely telling his viewers that ANYONE who disagrees with him that anyone who he deems a conspiracy theorist is a not only a liar but that they are holocaust deniers . he accused me of both but as yet has been unable and unwilling to prove this or atleast have the honesty and decency to retract his lies about me .


at 48 seconds he says the city of dallas lets conspiracy theorists spreads their lies . bear in mind now that we are just 48 seconds into the video , the first 31 seconds of which shows archive film of jfk . that means the following 17 seconds was used to attack and label people like me and people in dealy plaza LIARS who peddle lies . oh he wasnt kind enough to provide any of the lies he says these people tell YOU JUST HAVE TO TAKE HIS WORD FOR IT i guess . he says they have no sources of information . well one man sits on the knoll whom the 6th floor museum (situated in the depository) offered the job as curator . james apparently is saying that a man offered a job as jfk museum curator has no information or sources of information . and apparently that NOT ONE VISITOR to dealey plaza has ever conducted any research  LOL .

at the minute mark he says the place is completely taken over , it seems he doesnt know that dealey is a public area and that anyone who wishes is entitled to go there WHETHER HE LIKES THAT OR NOT . in fact dealey plaza contains 3 very busy streets so lots of people pass through there everyday whether they are interested in jfks assassination or not .

at about 1.30 he says on the 50th anniversary that he will go to dealy and in effect put his truth to the conspiracy liars . lol . well excuse me but i am only to happy for well read intelligent people to help me out with facts that i dont know or am well versed on . but james wouldnt be one of those people .


james says people like me demand truth and spit on everything jfk stood for . lol this is the idiocy of the man . yes i demand truth NOT LIES . if james doesnt like those apples well im afraid thats just tough . in regard spitting on jfks memory , im not the one blanket labeling everyone who disagrees with me LIARS AND HOLOCAUST DENIERS . im not the one deleting FACTS because i dont like them or cant deal with them JAMES IS . jfk once said that a government that wont let its people judge for them selves what is true or not in a FREE AND OPEN MARKET is afraid of its people . james doesnt want that free and open market , thats why he deletes facts . rather then let people have all the information and decide for them selves what is true or not he instead wants everyone to believe that we are LIARS AND HOLOCAUST DENIERS , which is an outright lie in the vast majority of cases where people try to discuss this case with james . so its james that spits on jfks memory with his lies .

at 2.30 he talks about america WE ARE SO MUCH BETTER THAN THAT lol lol . yes america didnt lie about gulf of tonkin in order to start a war , yes saddam really did have large stock pile of WMD lol lol , the cia never broke into watergate , air america didnt ship **** in to america , america wouldnt flout international laws and lock up and torture prisoners YES AMERICA IS BETTER THAN ALL THAT lol .

at about 3.11 he is back into his magic bullet LIE nonsense lol lol . he says people like me claim there was a magic bullet NO WE DONT LOL , in the real world sane intelligent people know that there is no such thing as magic bullets . it seems james lives in an alternate world where they do exist as he cant stop babbling about them lol . its very simple but james doesnt get it and just refused to see it , the magic bullet refernce is a term of RIDICULE lol not of fact . the single bullet theory that he believes in is a nonsense , its unproven , unprovable , and is discredited by facts , evidence , witnesses and medical expertise . but james gets around all that BY IGNORING ALL OF THAT .

at 3.30 or so james tries the age old tactic of IF YOU CANT REFUTE JFK FACTS THEN HEY LETS THROW IN OTHER NONSENSE ABOUT MOON LANDINGS , LITTLE GREEN MEN AND LOCH NESS to muddy the waters lol lol .


at 3.40 he turns babbling nonsense into RACISM , thats right lol james is now likening the facts i post to RACISM lol lol lol say no more lol .


and guess what guys ? lol lol at about 5 minutes james says I AM ASKING FOR YOUR MONEY , lol lol . this is not a surprise to me I KNEW THIS ALREADY . funnily enough I HAVENT ASKED ANYONE FOR A SINGLE RED CENT lol . thats true i spent years researching and still do , and i provide the fruits of that research (information) and my time 100% free . for me james is little more than a charlatan , a jfk tv evangelist after your money , send this man NOTHING . youtube is free , it costs nothing to borrow a video camera and shoot some film , james has a word press blog THAT IS FREE aside from any additional addons that he might decide he would like to add . so how much money does he really need ? all he needs is to research and aside from buying books that can be done free online .

james says send him 10 dollars , so dollars 100 dollars , does he remind anyone of the guy in the above video ? lol .