GOVERMENT TO POSSIBLY EXTEND BADGER CULL

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THE FUGITIVE

Animal husbandry is the issue not the badger for years it was reported that bovine beasts (cattle)caught TB from badgers and even stupid claims that badgers suckled the cows that was how they claimed they caught it but as humans we do know that when times were hard in this country and people did not feed themselves correctly TB and other deceases were rife so it is a simple case of animal husbandry.

Would it not be simpler to put badger proof fences around fields but no the farmers are cruel and cry out for culling the badger and let us look at facts some of the prepared feed cattle eat is actually made from DEAD COWS so they turn a herbivore into a carnivore but not only that they feed deceased animals back to healthy cows
We are supposed to be a nation of animal lovers yet few have seen a badger and now are not likely to see one they are Britains largest carnivore yes they are larger and heavier than our fox and are one of our oldest animals been around many thousands of years yet are been exterminated by man
ABOVE IS MY VIEWS ON BADGER CULLS --FUGITIVE

BELOW IS LEAGUE AGAINST CRUEL SPORTS VIEWS TO BADGER CULLS

Posted 19th February, 2018

A review of the 25-year strategy to tackle bovine tuberculosis (bTB) in cattle which includes the culling of badgers has recently been announced by the Government. The independent assessment will look at the system of intervention to control the disease and give advice on improvements, but is not a review of badger culling.

The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) has also announced a consultation on lifting the cap for the number of areas where culls can take place each year and on licensing some culling in parts of England that are at low risk of TB.

Responding to the news League Head of Policy and Research, Jordi Casamitjana, said: "We welcome the announcement of an independent review of the UK Government's 25-year bovine TB control strategy, but we are extremely concerned and disappointed they are considering an extension of the badger cull into low risk zones in England, and on lifting the cap for the number of areas where culls can take place each year, which makes no sense at all. While such review is taking place the badger cull should stop, not be expanded."

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one of the main reasons for mad cow disease was because as fug said above they give the cattle feed made from ground up dead cattle , bones , spine etc . they pump cattle etc full of antibiotics , after a time when these are used to much they become ineffective and dont work . the worst thing here is that this gets passed to humans via meat eaten and the milk being consumed . this in turn increases the chance that antibiotics will cease to have any effect on humans , certainly those already using a lot of them .

as fug correctly said the cattle are not being properly taken care of in favor of saving money , the less they pay out the more profit they make and thats the bottom line . and when they cut corners they put humans at risk as they did with BSE 9mad cow disease ) , that came back and on them and cost the farming industry big time . but they still feed the cattle the same crap bone meal , as far as im aware the only difference is they dont include the spine .

clearly there is some sort of agenda here when they are extending and extending in to what they aleady designated low risk areas . id love to see the scientific work the government are using for the basis of this cull , i mean the proof that badgers are causing tb .

im sure there is a difference to human tb . but tb in humans was caused by people having to live in cold damp dwellings , and who were also malnourished , in essence it was probably mainly poor people that had tb . as an example people who sleep rough etc are prone to it .
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THE FUGITIVE

Exactly my point piopat--tb WAS RIFE IN THE FORTIES FIFTIES AND EARLY SIXTIES THE COMMON FACTOR PEOPLE WERE POOR animals are fed dead animals that are deceased
this is common practice and even dog meat can contain dead dogs that are put to sleep --this is fact a case of a dog been very ill and could not move when checked by vets it was found the dog had the drug that was used to put dogs to sleep how it got there was through its food --in canada the animal foods were fined for using dead animals with cancers and dead DOGS WHO HAD BEEN PUT TO SLEEP fact not fiction also dont forget we import a lot of f00king animal feeds
We showed birds at the very top for years and we were looking for a food that could give the birds better feather which means more protein as feather is 99% protein while at the animal feed place he suggested a stuff that farmers use it was DEAD COWS made into powder we refused it but i know many breeders used it and i will tell you exactly what happened there was a epidemic of what was described by vets as MEGA BACTERIA this killed many thousands of birds so point is feeding wrong feed and not giving animals correct places to live causes decease and  TB and other problems

THE FUGITIVE

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As  this is about badger culls let us firstly look at the life of a badger -badgers are herbivore and carnivore they can just like us live on fruit plants and worms and small animals like frogs and baby rabbits they do NO HARM TO THE COUNTRYSIDE they in fact are one of our oldest British animals been around many thousands of years they are in fact closely related to the weasel and live in family groups underground and until the recent culls sets were protected by law you could not dig or even walk on top of a badger set.

Farmers claim that cattle are catching TB from badgers lets look at facts cattle are rarely left in fields overnight when badgers are active farmers buy cattle from markets and introduce them to the herd without first quarantine the said cattle farmers just as stated above in other posts feed cattle the cheapest foods possible and most is known to contain body parts ground up of dead deceased animals -look at barns they are filthy dirty places covered in animal sh*t and cows are made to lie in them -farmers try to make as much profit as possible and never see a animal in front of them they only see pound signs
Badgers are are peaceful animal that will live in the same set for 14 years if not disturbed they are sometimes called "brock" or "old man of the woods" we rarely see badgers as they are active at night they are beautiful creatures that can actually run at 30mph if needs be

So why is there such things as culls well its simple i have always believed the rich landowner to be a blood thirsty baron from olden times these barons protest to Goverment that they want a cull they may talk to them on the latest fox hunt they take part in and persuade them to kill badgers and science has already proved that the last cull had no effect on TB spreading so it was a pointless exercise --so these so called baron land owners want any animal off there land that includes fox-deer-badger-rabbit-pheasant-grouse and so on they are blood thirsty morons who think they own every animal that roams WELL IVE GOT NEWS FOR YOU AS A BRITISH SUBJECT THE BRITISH WILDLIFE DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU IT IS BRITISH AND BELONGS TO EVERYONE

ABOVE IS FUGITIVES VIEWS
BELOW IS mammal.org.uk facts

Recognition: Black and white striped long face. Body is grey with paler fur
underneath, with black fur on legs. Low-set animal, short tail.
Size: About 75cm, tail around 15cm
Weight: Average 8-9kg in spring, 11-12kg in autumn.
Life Span: The maximum life expectancy is about 14 years, though very
few survive so long in the wild.
Distribution & Habitat
Badgers are widespread in Britain, being most common in the south west, rarer to the north and east; thinly
distributed in Scotland. They are common throughout most of Ireland, but absent from the Isle of Mann, and
most of the other islands.
General Ecology
Behaviour
Badgers are nocturnal and rarely seen during the day. When not active, badgers usually lie up in an extensive
system of underground tunnels and nesting chambers, known as a sett. Each social group usually has a
main sett where the majority of the group live most of the time, but there may be odd holes scattered around
the territory that are used occasionally. Badgers can live in social groups of two to 23 adults, but usually
around six. These defend an area around their main sett as a territory. Territories may be as small as 30ha,
but are up to 150ha or more in the Highlands. Badgers mark the boundaries of territories with their distinctive
latrines. They leave their faeces in collections of shallow pits, which in aggregate are called latrines.
Diet and Feeding
Badgers exploit a wide variety of food items, but earthworms form the majority of the diet.
Reproduction
Mating takes place between February and May, with implantation delayed until late winter. Only one female
badger in a social group normally breeds, although sometimes two or more may do so. Litters of 2-3 cubs are
born around February blind and hairless in the safety of the nest. They usually appear above ground at about
8 weeks, and weaning usually takes about 12 weeks. By late summer they are usually feeding independently
but can be adversely affected by drought at this time causing starvation.
Species Factsheet:
Badger (Meles Meles)
Conservation Status
The Protection of Badgers Act 1992 consolidates past badger legislation and, in addition to protecting the
badger itself from being killed, persecuted or trapped, makes it an offence to damage, destroy or obstruct
badger setts. Where badgers pose a problem, licences can be issued to permit certain activities. Badger baiting
(using dogs to fight badgers) has been outlawed since 1835. The Badgers Act 1973 afforded limited protection
against badger digging, and was finally outlawed in 1981. About 80 local groups have been formed by
enthusiasts wishing to protect and study badgers. Their activities include protecting badgers from diggers and
baiters by reinforcing setts, helping with care and rehabilitation of injured badgers, having tunnels and badger
proof fencing added to new road schemes and giving developers advice about setts.
In 1988 there were estimated to be around 42,000 social groups of badgers, and just under 200,000 adult
badgers. By 1997 this had risen to just over 50,000 social groups and 310,000 adult badgers. The population
is now probably stable. Mortality is high, with around one-fifth of adults dying each year. Road traffic accidents
are a major cause of death. Some badgers are infected with bovine tuberculosis, particularly in the
south west of England. These animals are the subject of a control campaign by Defra. There is a continuing
debate about the role of badgers and cattle infecting each other with TB